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What would you do?
Ok I have a question that is pretty good. Here it goes. If a crew was inside of a working fire and IC,Safety Officer orders the air horn normaly three long blasts to evacuate the building and the crew of three inside does not here the air horn and no one has radio contact with the crew how can you get there attention to inform them to get out of the building? Just remember there is no wrong answer. I just want to find out what others would do in this situation.
Thanks and Be Safe,
Robbie Cox
Thanks and Be Safe,
Robbie Cox
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Permalink Reply by Michael Rasnic on
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we would normally give three hard tugs on the hose line or tag line being used by the crew. If after a short period of time there still was no reply we send in RIT
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Permalink Reply by Leonard (Rusty) Endicott on
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If we have no responce from the crew after normal evac is sounded then the RIT team goes and gets them.
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Permalink Reply by DUST on
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If I was on the crew to go get them depending on visibility inside I would make noise with a tool, shine my flashlight, and maybe activate my PASS device as I headed toward them to get their attention and get them heading your way and save you a minute or 2 (just let the guys outside know what your doing).
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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on
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If we have no response then the RIT team goes in......plain and simple...same goes for a PASS alarm....everything stops until situation is cleared......A Mayday....all radio transmissions cease....firefighting operations cease and we go get him/her...Stay safe....Keep the Faith....Paul
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Permalink Reply by Paul Stoops on
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As others have stated, if no response from the crew after the EVAC activation, RIT would be sent in. A second RIT team would be formed as a back up.
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Permalink Reply by Robbie Cox on
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That is what we would do too. I was just wondering how many people thought about that first before sending in the RIT Team. Thanks for the reply.
Stay Safe,
Robbie Cox
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That is a great idea, never thought of that before. The PASS device activation while going in is a good idea to bring to my future trainings. Thanks for the information.
Stay Safe,
Robbie Cox
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Permalink Reply by Melissa Eastwood on
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We would make sure that the team entering have a radio with them.
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The team does have a radio, there is some type of problems with the radio. What would you do now. You have no other means of contacting the crew by radio.
Stay Safe,
Robbie Cox
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Permalink Reply by Joe Stoltz on
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First of all, no one should be performing interior firefighting without a radio, period. I know that a lot of departments don't have enough radios to equip each interior FF with a radio, but it can't be an excuse. If you're inside and don't have a radio, how can you communicate a MAYDAY to the IC?
The RIT is an extension of the "two in, two out" rule mandated by OSHA regulations. Which, by the way, also stipulate that there shall be a positive means of communication between the inside team and the outside. We have a radio for each SCBA so that whoever wears it has a means of communicating with the interior sector officer or the IC if necessary.
Back to the question - if you lose contact with someone on the inside, send in the RIT. Assume they are in trouble until proven otherwise.
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Permalink Reply by John Crabbe on
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First off I am AGAINST activating your PASS as a RIT crew or team to go in aget another crew out.
Reason is I had to be on a RIT team for an actual MAYDAY, trust me, there is so damn much going through your head and the adreniline is pumping so high, you have to try and calm your ownself down. Part of that is LISTENING for other activated PASS devices, in case the crew is down and not that they just didn't hear the call to get out. Activating your own PASS hinders your ability to hear if another one is going off.
If the IC, Safety, or whoever deems that interior crews need to evacuate and an interior crew does not respond, this IS an emergency situation and one in which RIT gets activated. RIT goes in and gets the crew out.
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