In doing some research for an article I'm looking for any anecdotes of a situation where a Firefighter has been seriously injured while wearing standard full "Turn Out Gear" including or not including Self Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA).


I'm specifically interested in situations where the Firefighter has sustained an obvious complex long bone/spinal/C-Spine injury or where he/she has sustained a serious mechanism of injury that would indicate the likelihood of such an injury. A fall from a roof or through a floor etc. something where there was a definite force injury potential with acceleration / deacceleration issues of where it was easily seen that there were severely angulated fractures and the like.

I'm looking for cases where the Turn Out Gear was STILL in place and needed to be removed in an emergent fashion for EMS to treat this Firefighter on scene or if that was not possible how did you deal with the injures discussed above with the Turn Out Gear in place? I am most interested in cases where the Turn Out Gear was removed on scene and if so HOW it was removed given the scenario so as not to exacerbate the known or possible injuries.

Also, if you have ever discussed or trained for this in some way I'd be interested in that information as well.


If anyone has such a story I'd like to know as much information about how you dealt with this situation and the outcome in as much detail as possible.


Please feel free to E-Mail me off list at LNMolino@aol.com if you can assist me.


Thanks.


Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@aol.com

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Okay, you can stop now...
Fire Engineering Magazine and I have been talking about this. That can be confirmed by Mike McEvoy(mcevoymike@aol.com) their EMS Editor. I wrote a piece for them on Tazers last year.

Your assumption is so far off it is not even funny but semi insulting as not all consultants work working for lawyers.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@aol.com

979-412-0890 (Cell Phone)
Sorry if you took it as a insult, I just voice my opion. Good Luck LNM SR. CET
One of the things I value the most in life is your right to your opinion.

My goal is simple it is to share information and knowledge that might help a Firefighter period.

I make it a point to sign my posts so everyone and anyone can know who, where, and what I am.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@aol.com

979-412-0890 (Cell Phone)
979-690-7559 (IFW/FSS Office)
979-690-7562 (IFWF/SS Fax)

"A Texan with a Jersey Attitude"

"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people" Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)
I got one for you, I'm a red neck, with a New York attitude, and again case closed, I'm done here.
Go back to your research, your work has to be more important then going back, and fourth with me.
Again, I'm sorry for taking up your time.
Can't say I know of any cases like what you are looking for but best of luck and I will look forward to reading what you put together on the topic.

Since Capt. Shelly's assumption was so far off it wasn't funny, how bout a consultant joke...

A consultant is a man who knows 101 ways to make love but doesn’t know any women.
That's not all that far off and it's still not funny as it is my life's story ;(

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@aol.com
For those naysayers on here, Lou is the real deal and is all about "Us". I would stake my personal reputation on his sincerity and reputation. If you have a story that fits what he is looking for share it. It will do nothing but benefit all of us.
Thanks for the kind words Jason.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET
FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI
Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

LNMolino@aol.com
Dust, I said I was sorry to Louis, I don't see why it has to be discused any further. Maybe
my assumption was far off, and maybe it went a little to far, I just don't think that
someone would discuss a topic of this type of injury on a open discussion. Case Closed
J, thank you for setting the record straight, and I wish Louis the very best in his research.
Thank You

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