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Permalink Reply by jessica on February 17, 2009 at 5:34pm

fire service educatiors in keene NH have good pic on ground ladders but don't kown about vent/salvage/overhaul.
hope it helps

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Permalink Reply by Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd on February 17, 2009 at 5:48pm

Here's a couple to get you started... : )

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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on February 17, 2009 at 6:37pm

How about going to the Manuals used to teach FF1 and FF2...If I can remember that far back......LOl seems to me that there are some there...you also might find some interesting information at the US Fire Administration....I got them to send me some CD's on "Maydays" and the like....best of all it was free for the asking....Good luck....Paul....ps....No better training than to get them out off the trucks and throw them up and down a dozen or so times....you might also want to get some time climbing to see who is and who isn't comfortable at heights...better to find out now than later.......Paul

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Ballinger on February 17, 2009 at 11:03pm

No disrespect taken. The way I have my class set up is the first night I do a Power Point outlining ladder safety, placement depending on if it is rescue, ventilation, suppression, egressing the roof, construction, parts of the ladder, carries, the different sizes the engines carry and the ones the tower carries and etc. Basically a general overview of ladders. The following training night I take them out to practice the various carries and raises I showed them the week before. The pictures I am trying to find would be inserted as examples of such as a four man shoulder carry, 2 man straight arm carry, placing the ladder under the sill for rescue vs. over the window for suppression. It seems that they get it easier by seeing a picture of what I am talking about rather than me trying to explain it. Then the next week they can practice it more and I don't have to burn up part of their two hours showing them each of the methods. We don't always have a training house to go play at so it is hard finding places to throw roofers and ground ladders various ways.

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Ballinger on February 17, 2009 at 11:09pm

Thanks. I try to get them out and throw ladders when possible but we unfortunatley don't have a training tower and houses don't come around very often. Because we are a city FD, the chief is hesitant about taking them when offered because the developers want us to burn them it trade for getting to use them. Chief doesn't want to take responsibility of the surrounding houses, or smoke drifting through neighborhoods. Plus the paperwork we have to fill out for EPA and IEPA and everyone else is nuts. I have my FF2 book I took some pics from but was just looking to see if anyone had any real good pics I could use of action shots or something.

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Permalink Reply by Trainer on February 18, 2009 at 8:10am

Use your station, that’s what we do.
Maybe copy some pics out of the essentials book, or the reference book for FFII. Might also do some searching on the IFSI web, they won’t have specific pics, but might find some general.

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Ballinger on February 18, 2009 at 5:02pm

That is what I am planning to do with the next class. We have a lumber yard to use this Spring so I am going to have someone take pictures of the trainings with the IFSI instructors. Wouldn't think of having you train my people. If we had shift guys I would use them but we are a small town of only 25,000 people so we are just a volunteer dept.

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