Interior Attacks or Not?

Does your volunteer dept do interior attacks on fire runs? Some volunteer departments do not do interior attacks. Does your department? Our department always look at safety first however if your department feels that they can safely go in do they? Some volunteer departments feel led to do only exterior attacks. What does your department do?

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Permalink Reply by Tony P on January 28, 2009 at 2:56am
That's why I used the word TJ. I thought you were too smart to do it that way, but that isn't what you said. So I gave you the opportunity to clarify the post .

Fantastic that you've not had an injury in 12 years,, we should all be aiming to beat that!
Permalink Reply by T.J. on January 28, 2009 at 7:51am
Thanks Tony, we take a lot of pride in 12 years no injuries, so we really take it carefull but as you know sometimes we wonder how we put that fire out without hurting someone.
Permalink Reply by turk182 on January 28, 2009 at 12:42pm
We do to when possible.
Permalink Reply by candy on January 28, 2009 at 1:08pm
My Dept. Does Whatever Is Nessesary For That Scene...
Permalink Reply by Dennis Brown on January 28, 2009 at 1:53pm
Depends on the situation
Permalink Reply by Glenn.D.C_15 on January 28, 2009 at 2:02pm
First on scene Chief(s) will do an initial size-up, complete walk around. Then will decide if we do an interior attack. As Josh said, it is what we do. With that being said, only do it when the situation calls for it. If the structure is a complete write off, or the 20 minute rule comes in to play, then it becomes strictly defensive.
Permalink Reply by Bradley S Woodward on January 28, 2009 at 2:52pm
Yes We Do go in. when the IC tells us to. we also use the two in two out rule. with at least two for a rit team.
Permalink Reply by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on January 28, 2009 at 3:04pm
What do firefighters do?
There would come forth many answers or questions because the question is so open ended.
There are many considerations that must be taken into account when deciding on what tactics to deploy on a "fire run".
Therefore to simply say "yes" or "no" implies that you didn't give the question much thought.
It's not as simple a question as posed.
TCSS.
Art
Permalink Reply by Nando Canez on January 28, 2009 at 3:15pm
The dept i work for is, in my opinion, very aggresssive when it comes to fire attack...i didnt say we were reckless...i said 'aggressive' but after having provided for safety first...meaning we meet the two in-two out a GREAT majority of the time...have a good risk/benefit strategy...you know the whole 'risk alot to save a life' based on a calculated chance at being effective...risk nothing to save property thats already lost...yada-yada-yada

as a potential fire officer...i feel its never in the best interest of the guys to place them in harms way needlessly...especially under adverse conditions...such as limited manpower, questionable equipment or untenable building conditions...my personal first priority is to myself and my crew...I want to make sure my people are being safe and everyone goes home after the shift...so if the situation warranted it...exterior fire attacks are justifiable in my book...after all i can live with making the decision to lose civilian lives...some might read that and have a problem with that...but present a person with a 'no win-somebody dies' situation...most people will try to do the undo-able and save everybody...inevitably it comes down to realistic expectations we have of ourselves and the people we work with...if fire has consumed more than 50% of the structure and the thing is ripping so bad the smoke can be seen all around town..what are the REALISTIC chances of pulling someone out alive?

now ask a civilian with no fire experience and you may be surprised at what their expectations of the fire service are...

my opinion is: if there are agencies out there that can't do an aggressive interior operation due to resource limitations...then they should be looking at different ways to mitigate their fire calls...like CAFS or different fire nozzles that atomize the water so good they effectively will put the fire out without ever making an interior approach on the fire...ive seen them at trade shows and from vendors while at expos...if a dept isnt willing to spend the money to give it's guys the tools they need...up front before the incident occurs... to be effective and safe... then they can, and should pay later in the courts if necessary to compensate the family of a fallen brother or sister.
Permalink Reply by michael tyndall on January 28, 2009 at 3:20pm
my volunteer dept are very much for interior attack . I feel like you can control fire spreed better without pushing it to the un burned parts
Permalink Reply by rescueortruck on January 28, 2009 at 7:25pm
yes my department does interior attacks. As a matter of fact I have been on one scene where my truck was not first or even second due but when we got there the fire became an interior attack. But you are right some places do not do a interior and that is ok for them until their house is on fire and the do a surround and drown and they loose everything.
Permalink Reply by Brett Smith on February 5, 2009 at 11:36pm
Our station does both we have great officers,and firemen who know how to sizeup. Safty is #1 as always. We will do a interior attack no problem . It just depends size up factors on how we attack.
We are 100% volunteer fire department.

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