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Interior Attacks or Not?
Does your volunteer dept do interior attacks on fire runs? Some volunteer departments do not do interior attacks. Does your department? Our department always look at safety first however if your department feels that they can safely go in do they? Some volunteer departments feel led to do only exterior attacks. What does your department do?
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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on
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WHEN THE CONDITIONS PERMIT IT, my department is right there with the VES and or interior attack. Yes, I am a volunteer firefighter. Your generalization is unbased and also way off.
Risk little to save a little, risk a lot to save a lot, risk nothing to save nothing.
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Permalink Reply by Dewayne and Diana Bean on
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We do to. I just realized after training at another VD in our county that some will not under any circumstance, the statement was that we don't get there in time on every run I have been on we have. I kind of felt like I thought it was being taught not to my husband and I discussed this after we left.
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Permalink Reply by DWAYNE BURTON on
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well you would not be a dept at all if you run in to do a interior attack and the whole building comes down on you. it is called saftey first. come back from the fire with the same amount of firefighters you left with. if my dept gets there in time and the scene is safe oh yeh we are going in but if it is not absolutely no interior attack
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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I can think of a situation where it would be insane for a VFD to make an interior attack under any circumstances.
If the VFD is so poorly funded that it can't afford annual firefighter physicals, medical clearance, and respirator (SCBA) fit testing, then it's potentially suicidal and legally indefensible for the chief to ever send firefighters into a burning building.
If I'm the chief of that VFD, then there's no way I'm killing my firefighters or putting my future in legal jeopardy for a community that won't fund us adequately.
Ben
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Sounds like your with an AWESOME dept there Burton
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well there bean you are right i feal we are the best in our county
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i agree with you but there are depts that are funded well enough but still don't. why i don't know maybe under trained or what but i feel if you can go in and save as much of the structure as possible
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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Also MUST consider what are we saving?
Life vs property has to be a key part. Also, reading the scene, how far gone is the structure, etc.
Aggressive interior atatcks must be calculated and assesed- not automatic.
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Every situation is different
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There are other reasons to avoid interior attacks...
1) BORN LOSERS
2) No rescue problem and a well-involved fire
3) Chronic inadequate manpower
4) Chronic inadequate water supply
5) Long response times that don't beat flashover
6) Unreliable equipment
7) Large percentages of inexperienced members
8) Large percentages of inexperienced officers
9) A more conservative risk-benefit model than the traditional one.
If the fire department has losses that are considered acceptable by the community and the chief brings every firefighter home unhurt after every fire, it's difficult for me to argue that he's no a successful VFD chief.
Ben
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if it is only a one roomon fire you mean to tell me you will not go inside
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