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Hybrid Shoulder Load
We were trying to figure out how we could pack a shoulder load in the speed lay spots on our engine. The only problem was the speed lay slots were too wide for a minuteman or shoulder load. The pictures will help explain how I came up with this Idea.
1. Load on the first section in just a single stack.
2. Pack the rest like a shoulder load. Nozzle section down first then pack it in two rows criss-crossing them, but keeping them in neat stacks.
3. Make sure that you make your loop to help pull out both stacks along with the nozzle.
This load works wonderful and I hope people can use this and end their speed lay dilema like it did ours.
1. Load on the first section in just a single stack.
2. Pack the rest like a shoulder load. Nozzle section down first then pack it in two rows criss-crossing them, but keeping them in neat stacks.
3. Make sure that you make your loop to help pull out both stacks along with the nozzle.
This load works wonderful and I hope people can use this and end their speed lay dilema like it did ours.
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Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Eng10Squad on
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Why don't you have your maintenance person install a couple of dividers in the hose bed? Otherwise the load looks good to me for what you have to deal with.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Bock on
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We did buy dividers but did not install them because they made it look like a cheap fix,
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Can I ask why your truck was spec'd with such a wide speedlay area. It appears that it would allow 2.5 to be packed in two stacks, but a 3-stack speedlay???
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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Cheap fixes are the best kind. How the lay looks isn't really important - what's important is how the load deploys.
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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Agreed. Can you get the hose out in the way you need it? That's what matters, not the look of it.
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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on
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Every hose on every one of our companies is flat loaded(speedlays, supply lines, trashlines, etc..). We do it this way for ease of operation and consistency. Some Engine Bosses like the loops(dog ears) every 50 ft so their guys can slide their arm in, reach back and grab another loop with the other hand and go. but you have to use what works for your department and then train on it. Trial and error is the best way to find out what works best for your department.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Dudan on
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I couldn't view the pics, but this sounds similar to the situation we recently faced. We have double wide speedlays with 200 feet of 1"3/4.It use to be all flat lay but deployment was a bitch.If not deployed properly it would snag and get hung up...and if pulled properly it still yanked the load off of the firefighter because it flaked from the bottom. The new lay still uses 200 feet but is much easier to pull and use.The first 100 feet is loaded flat stacked on one side of the tray with the female connected on the bottom. The next 100 feet is flat loaded in reverse with the nozzle/male end on the bottom ant the ends are connected on top.Deployment is firefighter has 100 feet on shoulder and 100 to pull off the truck.
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Permalink Reply by Perry Bryant on
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HA!! We just had the same problem with our new 2009 Pierce Arrow XT due to a small error. We did two things. Added a divider with an extra 100 feet of 1 3/4" line if we ever need it and in the other main space we racked it like we do our other cross lays. 100 feet dead load and 100 shoulder load.
There are many other things that you can do.
100 foot dead load and two 50 ft shoulder loads if you always have full crews and many more.
Don't forget that you have a driver that is standing there at the pump. He can always flake the dead load for you. The driver can do things too.
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Permalink Reply by Jason M Haas on
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We are following Syracuse, NY in flat loading our speed lays with the last 50' single stacked with a bungee and wedge to hold bundle together. That way you have 50 ft at the door with a wedge to hold your door. Has worked great so far!
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