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How Many Departments Have Fire Police
I was just wondering how many departments have Fire Police, and are they paid or vol. departments ?? Do they hold any type of peace officer status, or are they civilians ???
We don't have Fire police in the department I belong to, and was just wondering how many departments did. WOW IS THIS A HOT & HEATED DISCUSSION
We don't have Fire police in the department I belong to, and was just wondering how many departments did. WOW IS THIS A HOT & HEATED DISCUSSION
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Permalink Reply by Clay Hood on
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Cal-fire has fire police, if thats what you want to call them. In my academy we met one from Siskiyou County in Nor-Cal, he said he gets called as backup for SO and Fish and Game. Oh yeah you have to be a chief as well.
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Permalink Reply by Padre Pete on
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Thanks Joe. New York has been well represented again. In this county they are well organized. The North County or South County FP Response teams get dispatched to assist with major traffic control problems. They all belong to home depts but have monthly county meetings that start with an hour of serious training. They have come a long way from the old FF's retirement club they were once percieved to be.
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Permalink Reply by Just Plain Craig Moyer on
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Like Alan said, in Delaware we have Fire Police, They can actually arrest people (but in reality anyone can) They used to be able to carry weapons. I have to say that they are greatly unappreciated. Most are older FF's who can't ride or be active. But I have much love for what they do from the few times I had to direct traffic.
But it is funny to hear them on the radio at times.
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Permalink Reply by Mick Shelley on
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In the department I was in up in New York, we had them, and as Craig said, they were old timers that were
unable to fight fires any longer, so they helped out with traffic, and crowed control at the sence of fires,
car accidents etc.
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Permalink Reply by Jake Fireman on
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Ive heard of "fire-police" in a few rural areas of California, and on some military installations. I knew 1 guy that worked on a militery installation and said they were trained to "peace" officer status and carried weapons. Past that I don't really know what else they did. Last time I had talked to him he had been on the job for 4 years and had made 2 arrests. It sounded like the rest was security, fire prevention and suppression when needed.
But they were fully authorized peace officer with the State of California.
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Permalink Reply by Tom Chmielowiec Jr. on
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I believe all 9 fire companies in the Town of Hamburg, NY have Fire Police Squads, once they have completed the NYS course "Fire Police", after the class is taken and passed, you fill out a form that is sent to the state for Peace Officer status.
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Permalink Reply by Jerry on
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I don't know what their police-ish powers are, but their main duties are traffic control and keeping bystanders out of the way. I respect them quite a bit, they really help a lot with the traffic, watching our backs while freeing up a firefighter to do other duties on scene. I don't think most rural departments would have a need for fire police, but here in the suburbs, they're a huge help. They've gotten a bit more respect in the past few months after a LODD when a motorist struck an EMT, people have started to think more about apparatus positioning, flare/cone placement, etc. I chat with the FP guys from my station, they often get stuck at the scene managing traffic long after the rescue trucks are back in quarters while the police and wreckers do their thing.
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Permalink Reply by Shane Wood on
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We have a Fire Police unit within my department here in Florida. My department is a combination department, but the Fire Police are all volunteers. They do not have any peace officer status, just volunteers with equipment to come out and assist the department when needed. They watch over the scene to make sure no one messes with the equiupment, and also help with crowd control. On MVC calls they are used for traffic control around the scene. A neighboring department also has Fire Police, so if needed we call on eachother to assist with major calls, especially if we have to shut down I95 for any reason. The unit is not new and has been in place for the 18 years that I have been affiliated with my department. My opinion, they are an asset. We also use them to retrieve firefighters from the hospital that had to ride in on the amublance to assist during transport. This works especially well as it keeps our units in service here in the city.
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Thank You Shane for sharing that information with us, be safe brother
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Permalink Reply by Chris Sterling on
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Here in Hydetown, Pa. we have fire police. These guys really save our butts with traffic control, and crowd control. They do have to take a state certified class, and are actually sworn in under oathe to uphold the laws of the Pennsylvania state fire police association. We are a Volunteer dept.. The paid departments near us don't have fire police, because they have law enforcement police departments that take care of traffic ,and crowd control, until our fire police arrive on scene. They then pass it off to them, when we're in the city for mutual aid, which is almost always. We're on there first alarm assignment.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Everson on
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Hi Mick, Woodbury Minnesota, a town that borders us, has some Police Officers that carry turnout gear in thier squad cars. They also have Police/ Paramedics. Maplewood the city I work for also has Police Officer/ Paramedics but with FT FF/ Paramedics now the PD is decreasing thier involvement in EMS. I heard through union news letters that Duluth Minnesota might be in the process of some Police Officers with turnout gear in thier squads.
Paul
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My department is a combination department. 15 FT FF/ Paramedics and 80 PPC FF/EMTs. We had trouble getting the daytime hours covered with Paid per call staff. We work 24-hour shifts with a crew of 4 FF/Paramedics and have 4000 calls a years for service. We only cover 19 sq miles so we are a busy little town.
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