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Five Minutes in the Streets: Single Family Residential Fire -Size Up
OK...here's a real quick one that I thought I'd toss in, something not as heavy duty as the incident scenarios that I usually post. So here's a new series of postings that I'll call; "Five Minutes in the Street".
So size this up...
Safety, Construction, Operations, Strategies, Tactics, IAP, First Thoughts, Gut Feelings, etc...
What are the projected safety concerns?
Where is the fire and where is it going?
If its 02:00 hrs., do you have problems?
How well will the house's construction and assemblies perform?
Whats the life safety concerns for any occupants?
How will the house construction and/or layout support my operation or hinder it?
What type of roof or floor support systems can I expect to have?
Will weather be a concern?
Is the size of the house a concern?
Will the size of the house(SF) be affected by fire behavior and travel?
The front door is closed!
There's is NO ONE in the font yard...no civilians..is that a problem?
You make the call.....and you've got five minutes to do it......
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Permalink Reply by Jay Nicholson on
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My gut tells me this is going to be in the papers tomorrow as a fatal fire.. Night time call probably delayed reporting. Car in the drive way means people in the structure. First line needs to be placed between the fire and possible victims. Hopefully the snow won't delay responding units but I've got to think it will.
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Permalink Reply by Steve on
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Well the sidewalk was shoveled, and so i think you can assume the streets have been plowed and will not delay units.
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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Construction - Split-foyerType V (lightweight wood) with partial brick veneer.
The layout will hinder the attack, because the hoseline has to go in the front door, up the stairs, make the hall, and extinguish fire that is between the hoseline and the likely occupants.
You have to assume entrapment in this house due to the time and the car in the driveway.
The fire is probably in a bedroom. The sleeping quarters are upstairs on the right. The two front rooms are bedrooms off a hallway that runs from the top of the stairs to Side D. The C-D corner bedroom is the master, with a master bath off of it. There should be another bathroom to the rear that will probably be the first door to the left down the hallway.
Here's my IAP.
Engine 1 forces the front door and takes a 1.75 inch line in. They use either a smoothbore tip or straight stream. Their assignment is Search to the Fire. If they find a victim prior to making the stairs, they make the rescue, otherwise they fight the fire.
Engine 2 establishes water supply on the way in, then assists Truck 1 with rescues over ladders in the C-D and D-A bedrooms.
Truck 1 ladders the Side C master bedroom window and performs VES if they can shut the door. The truck Officer and Irons take irons, an officer's tool, and a thermal imager for the window cleanout and VES entry. If they can't find anyone quickly with the imager, they take an imager peek down the hallway to see if a victim is in the hall before they shut the bedroom door.
Truck 1's Driver and Tiller gear up, ladder the D-A bedroom front window, perform VES in the same manner. They take Engine 1 or Engine 2's TIC if a second one is available.
As the battalion chief, I'd expect to establish Command, because Engine 1's officer is committed to the attack.
I'm calling a Working Incident and asking for 2 additional engines, 1 truck/rescue, and 3 additional ALS ambulances. I'm estimating three victims - two parents and one child from the structure and the fire.
Engine 3's officer and nozzleman gets IRIT and flakes a backup line out. As soon as Engine 5 arrives, they take over RIT and Engine 3 takes the 2nd line in. Engine 3's hydrant firefighter gets the hydrant and their driver lays out to Engine 1. As soon as water supply is established to Engine 1, Engine 3's driver and hydrant firefighters go to Side C to assist Truck 1 with ladder rescues.
Medic 1 gets the Medical Group. The EMT runs the medical group and the Paramedic sets up for advanced airway care for multiple patients.
Medic 2 will be the Treatment Team and assist Medic 1 with patient care.
Medic 3 will be the first transport unit used, because the other two may be temporarily blocked in.
Engine 4 will work as the Transport Team to move patients from the rescue to the ambulances.
Engine 4's crew will do a primary search of the den, dining room, and kitchen upstairs to the left. When that search is complete, they will be split to drive ambulances to the hospital after all patients are rescued and moved to the ambulances.
Truck 2 or Rescue 1 will conduct primary search of the basement if the house is still tenable.
The 2nd Chief will take over the Medical group if any of the rescues are delayed.
The 3rd Chief will get Safety and the 4th Chief will get Division C.
Medic 4 will establish Rehab.
Engine 1 should be able to knock most of this fire with the single line - it looks mostly contained to the one bedroom.
Hopefully this bedroom is a unoccupied guest bedroom, or this will be a fatal fire with all of the police/coroner/PIO implications, notifying the Fire Chief, etc.
Engine 2's crew will have to help Truck 1's crew get the victims down the ladders. I'd place the ladders at a shallow angle to facilitate any bailout the VES crew may have to do, and to make the rescue easier on the single firefighter that may be rescuing adults down the ladders.
Once the rescues are complete and the victims taken care of, we'll start on extension and the probable attic fire. If the attic fire becomes well-involved, we may go Defensive after the rescuers are complete.
RECEO-VS
Rescues - Truck 1, assisted by Engine companies.
Exposure - interior only, Engine 1's line should take care of this on the way in.
Confinement - Engine 1's line, with support from a second line if the attic becomes a problem.
Extinguishment - Engine 1 with secondary help as needed.
Overhaul - everyone, after Rehab.
Ventilation - this fire is autovented, the fire took care of most of this for us. VES will take care of ventilation in the survivable bedrooms.
Salvage - a very, very low priority on this fire.
I would NOT use PPV on this fire, as it will drive the bedroom fire into the uninvolved bedrooms.
This doesn't cover every detail, but it's late and I'll let the rest of you take a shot.
Ben
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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on
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I lived in a home like this about 5 years ago. The front door dumped you onto a landing with stairs down and up to the right. The stairs to the right brought you to the dining room/kitchen area (shown in these photo's as the fire room) and the left was your living room/family room. The bedrooms and a bathroom are down a hallway to the rear of the residence. (2 bedrooms)
I agree with your other attach plans Ben, you have it well rounded up.
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913,
I based my house layout assumptions on two things...
In the southeast, the bedrooms are almost always over the garage and the living room/kitchen/dining room are over a basement recreation room, or mother-in-law apartment, or workshop, etc.
My other assumption is based on the front window configuration. The windows to the left of the front door are all located together. That says "living room" to me. The windows showing fire and the windows to the right are separated. That says "bedrooms" to me.
I'm open to other possibilities, but on this one I'd lay odds on the construction layout that's most common in my part of the world.
Ben
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Permalink Reply by Christopher J. Naum, SFPE on
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Assumption is correct. Raised Ranch...standard plan configuration with split stairs up and down, central hallway off the living room...bedrooms to the right. (of the photo)
Fire is located in Bedroom #2 of three bedrooms.....
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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We got people in this baby, as an officer I need to keep my people focused, and as stupid as it sounds slow down and think, ok the slow down part sounds stupid. 1st eng 2 ready at front door with pre-con, 2 placing ladder on D side, pulling 2nd pre-con for same. 2nd eng, water supply, 2 for RIT, now I let A company go to work. I want 4 going in the D side; I need the line advanced to the hallway, with 2 dropping off for SR. I’ll allow RIT to help ladder victims till 3rd eng arrives and they will cover C and either ladder or work off of deck to gain access to back bedrooms. Everyone needs to understand that A company has suppression, with D as a backup, this is good place to blast each other, narrow hallway. I’ve called for another eng, just because, along with at least 4 ambulances. Additional resources will need to be called if or when we determine there is a fatality.
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Your comments...."I need to keep my people focused, and as stupid as it sounds slow down and think, ok the slow down part sounds stupid." are far from "stupid"...it forms the basis from which everything else is derived! in other words ...slowing down provides us with a clearer picture, allows us to "see" things that may not have been recognized if we had rushed too quickly. Being quick and efficient is different than being fast...there is a huge difference. We need to train our officers to understand the difference in the name of safer operations. Slowing down and focusing are mission crucial and fundamental elements of firefighter safety.
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Ya Chris, I know that, it was for the benefit of the new officers who might not even think of that. Even some experienced ones loose it when bodies are involved. The only thing worse here would be to have a parent out front screaming, now try to slow them down.
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Know that all too well.....
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