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OK so has anyone come across an owner who bobby traps their yard if so what did you do abouot it, if not how would you handle a situation like this?

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isn't that what blue canaries are for.

Seriously it comes down to situational awarness; pay attention to your sorroundings and any information you may pick up about the residence in route or when you arrive on scene.

TCSS
"They want to play and set traps....let it burn."

Right on, Ralph!
He said, "Boobie". Hehehe
That`s a BIG reason that I say situational awareness isn`t beaten into new responder`s heads enough. We ALWAYS need to be on lookout for hazards, even at grandma`s house.
That's so true! I've joined a smaller Unit after being a vol at a busy metro Unit and I've strongly suggested that safety procedures need to be reviewed. We can no longer assume in 2010 that any house we attend is not a drug lab or something else.
I know one that was raided not to long ago that is right around the corner from where I now live. It is odd having it there. But when we give directions we generally tell people that is is just around the bend from the old meth place....
O.k. I've read it enough in here so I have to ask..... what do you use for situational awareness when at 3 a.m. you get a call to a house to put a fire out and exactly how would any FF know that there is a spike pit in the backyard protecting the maijuana patch in the garden.If there isn't a sign on the front gate "watch the spike pit" or do your scba have laser scanners in the masks to detect drugs on the property or irregularities in the density of the ground you are about to walk on?
Nobody and I mean nobody on here would be extra cautious of looking for spike pits.Is it getting to the point in this world that FF's,EMT's,police have to send a robot in to scan properties and residences before you enter the front gate.If there is no previous knowledge of it being a meth lab and lets face it if anyone besides the drug dealers knew that the house you were responding to was a meth lab or was booby trapped it would not be a meth lab or booby trapped anymore because cops would have shut it down.
Lets all take a vow right now and promise each other we will from this day forward we will all have three people on the hose "one on the nozzle ,one backin the nozzle guy and one in front with an axe sounding the ground they are walking on"!!!
Maybe our world is coming to that..... instead of two in two out... three in three out....
When I was in fire school, one of my instructors used to be a cop, an then a fire investigator, and over his years he had come across some nasty traps.
One being that they would cut a hole in the floor just inside the door, and when the ff's would do their interior attack, then would fall into a spike pit.
Also another one he came across was the same kind of thing, hole inside the door, but they rigged it up so the ff would fall into the basement, and they had something rigged that it would drench the ff in gasoline.

Nasty stuff, messed up people I tell ya.
Then I say if your house is on fire.... Don't call or risk going to jail.... That is just plain wrong

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