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Can anyone tell me what Fire Departments (apart from the NYFD) responded to the Terrorist attacks? I would like to know what volunteers went to New York and what others responded to DC and Pennyslvania! Thank you guys!
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Permalink Reply by Michael McCarthy on
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Responded to the scene? or just to NYC ? There were a lot of Fire and EMS units from outside NYC that responded to the city and were used in support so that FDNY could commit companies to the site and still have adequate coverage in the city.
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Permalink Reply by Thomas Huntington on
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Any Fire Departments that Participated in the 9/11 Attacks. Not just NYC. Anything you could tell me would be great!
Michael McCarthy said:Responded to the scene? or just to NYC ? There were a lot of Fire and EMS units from outside NYC that responded to the city and were used in support so that FDNY could commit companies to the site and still have adequate coverage in the city.
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Permalink Reply by captnjak on
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I don't believe there were any departments officially requested to respond th the site. Numerous individuals and/or groups showed up and worked the scene voluntarily. I worked alongside members from Yonkers and LA County.
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Thank you very much for that information and your service that day! Can you tell me anything about the other sites?
captnjak said:I don't believe there were any departments officially requested to respond th the site. Numerous individuals and/or groups showed up and worked the scene voluntarily. I worked alongside members from Yonkers and LA County.
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No info on other sites. Seems there would have to be some level of mutual aid, at least in PA.
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Thanks! I am just interested. Again thank you for your service!
captnjak said:No info on other sites. Seems there would have to be some level of mutual aid, at least in PA.
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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on
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Thomas -- you're asking a very good - but broad - question. One that really doesn't have a good answer.
Pennsylvania, and the Arlington VA were somewhat limited incidents, and so perhaps with some research you can create a pretty good list, but in New York City -- whoooww.... There was so much chaos, and turmoil -- and the active incident lasted for months!
When you ask, "who responded" - would that mean just those who officially responded? There were lots of reports of fire firefighters and apparatus who "self dispatched" -- IE the got on the rig and started heading towards the city once the news reports started coming in. Some made it, many did not (most were turned around at the various entry points going into the city). Do you count those we went, or those who arrived?
And then what about all the surrounding departments who covered the empty firehouses (in NY City and beyond) -- do you count them too?
And are you counting "people" or "apparatus?" On Sept 12th the New York City Fire Department officially requested assistance from the Chicago Fire Department. My community (Aurora, IL) had just trained six firefighters in the burgeoning new topic of "technical rescue" so they were officially invited to go along with the Chicago squad. So do you count Chicago and Aurora, (we in essence operated as one team).
Many departments had individual members respond, as part of FEMA and other federal USAR teams. Do you count them as a "team" or as representing their department?
. . . . and then what about all the individuals who "self dispatched" -- 1,000s of firefighters from around the country and even overseas wanted to be a part -- to do something to help -- so they took their personal time and went (responded) to NY and worked in the pile in the days and weeks following the attack. These individuals were not officially invited (and/or condoned) but they were there. They "responded" -- do you you count them?
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Thank you David for your reply!
I guess I could have formed the question a bit better! I am sorry about that! I will continue on research for the Pennsylvania and Washington DC scenes.
Well I was hoping that someone could tell me about any and every department from their own experiences. For example: I responded with such and such a Department and I saw such and such a fire fighter from such and such a department. I just would really like to know a few facts about the responders who responded not just to the towers but also to lessen the strain on the companies that had to stay back and cover the city. If that makes it any clearer!
I just believe that these departments and individuals also should be recognised as they stepped up and helped on new York`s darkest day.
Thanks again David!
David Lewis said:Thomas -- you're asking a very good - but broad - question. One that really doesn't have a good answer.
Pennsylvania, and the Arlington VA were somewhat limited incidents, and so perhaps with some research you can create a pretty good list, but in New York City -- whoooww.... There was so much chaos, and turmoil -- and the active incident lasted for months!
When you ask, "who responded" - would that mean just those who officially responded? There were lots of reports of fire firefighters and apparatus who "self dispatched" -- IE the got on the rig and started heading towards the city once the news reports started coming in. Some made it, many did not (most were turned around at the various entry points going into the city). Do you count those we went, or those who arrived?
And then what about all the surrounding departments who covered the empty firehouses (in NY City and beyond) -- do you count them too?
And are you counting "people" or "apparatus?" On Sept 12th the New York City Fire Department officially requested assistance from the Chicago Fire Department. My community (Aurora, IL) had just trained six firefighters in the burgeoning new topic of "technical rescue" so they were officially invited to go along with the Chicago squad. So do you count Chicago and Aurora, (we in essence operated as one team).
Many departments had individual members respond, as part of FEMA and other federal USAR teams. Do you count them as a "team" or as representing their department?
. . . . and then what about all the individuals who "self dispatched" -- 1,000s of firefighters from around the country and even overseas wanted to be a part -- to do something to help -- so they took their personal time and went (responded) to NY and worked in the pile in the days and weeks following the attack. These individuals were not officially invited (and/or condoned) but they were there. They "responded" -- do you you count them?
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Officially - there were no Vollie Departments requested to the scene.. but I know of a few that SOC firefighters who vollie with had their vollie departments apparatus brought to the site because they knew the equipment that was on it and it had the specialty tools they needed.
As far as EMS..by 6 pm there were 96 "outside" agencies that were in staging by the pier on west side highway. Their are probably ALOT more that we will ever know about.
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Thomas Huntington said:Thank you David for your reply!
I guess I could have formed the question a bit better! I am sorry about that! I will continue on research for the Pennsylvania and Washington DC scenes.
Well I was hoping that someone could tell me about any and every department from their own experiences. For example: I responded with such and such a Department and I saw such and such a fire fighter from such and such a department. I just would really like to know a few facts about the responders who responded not just to the towers but also to lessen the strain on the companies that had to stay back and cover the city. If that makes it any clearer!
I just believe that these departments and individuals also should be recognised as they stepped up and helped on new York`s darkest day.
Thanks again David!
David Lewis said:Thomas -- you're asking a very good - but broad - question. One that really doesn't have a good answer.
Pennsylvania, and the Arlington VA were somewhat limited incidents, and so perhaps with some research you can create a pretty good list, but in New York City -- whoooww.... There was so much chaos, and turmoil -- and the active incident lasted for months!
When you ask, "who responded" - would that mean just those who officially responded? There were lots of reports of fire firefighters and apparatus who "self dispatched" -- IE the got on the rig and started heading towards the city once the news reports started coming in. Some made it, many did not (most were turned around at the various entry points going into the city). Do you count those we went, or those who arrived?
And then what about all the surrounding departments who covered the empty firehouses (in NY City and beyond) -- do you count them too?
And are you counting "people" or "apparatus?" On Sept 12th the New York City Fire Department officially requested assistance from the Chicago Fire Department. My community (Aurora, IL) had just trained six firefighters in the burgeoning new topic of "technical rescue" so they were officially invited to go along with the Chicago squad. So do you count Chicago and Aurora, (we in essence operated as one team).
Many departments had individual members respond, as part of FEMA and other federal USAR teams. Do you count them as a "team" or as representing their department?
. . . . and then what about all the individuals who "self dispatched" -- 1,000s of firefighters from around the country and even overseas wanted to be a part -- to do something to help -- so they took their personal time and went (responded) to NY and worked in the pile in the days and weeks following the attack. These individuals were not officially invited (and/or condoned) but they were there. They "responded" -- do you you count them?Thomas,
No one can tell you about any and every department from their own experience. I think you may be underestimating the scale of this incident, both in the size of the affected area and the size of the response.
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Thank you!
captnjak said:
Thomas Huntington said:Thank you David for your reply!
I guess I could have formed the question a bit better! I am sorry about that! I will continue on research for the Pennsylvania and Washington DC scenes.
Well I was hoping that someone could tell me about any and every department from their own experiences. For example: I responded with such and such a Department and I saw such and such a fire fighter from such and such a department. I just would really like to know a few facts about the responders who responded not just to the towers but also to lessen the strain on the companies that had to stay back and cover the city. If that makes it any clearer!
I just believe that these departments and individuals also should be recognised as they stepped up and helped on new York`s darkest day.
Thanks again David!
David Lewis said:Thomas -- you're asking a very good - but broad - question. One that really doesn't have a good answer.
Pennsylvania, and the Arlington VA were somewhat limited incidents, and so perhaps with some research you can create a pretty good list, but in New York City -- whoooww.... There was so much chaos, and turmoil -- and the active incident lasted for months!
When you ask, "who responded" - would that mean just those who officially responded? There were lots of reports of fire firefighters and apparatus who "self dispatched" -- IE the got on the rig and started heading towards the city once the news reports started coming in. Some made it, many did not (most were turned around at the various entry points going into the city). Do you count those we went, or those who arrived?
And then what about all the surrounding departments who covered the empty firehouses (in NY City and beyond) -- do you count them too?
And are you counting "people" or "apparatus?" On Sept 12th the New York City Fire Department officially requested assistance from the Chicago Fire Department. My community (Aurora, IL) had just trained six firefighters in the burgeoning new topic of "technical rescue" so they were officially invited to go along with the Chicago squad. So do you count Chicago and Aurora, (we in essence operated as one team).
Many departments had individual members respond, as part of FEMA and other federal USAR teams. Do you count them as a "team" or as representing their department?
. . . . and then what about all the individuals who "self dispatched" -- 1,000s of firefighters from around the country and even overseas wanted to be a part -- to do something to help -- so they took their personal time and went (responded) to NY and worked in the pile in the days and weeks following the attack. These individuals were not officially invited (and/or condoned) but they were there. They "responded" -- do you you count them?Thomas,
No one can tell you about any and every department from their own experience. I think you may be underestimating the scale of this incident, both in the size of the affected area and the size of the response.
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Permalink Reply by capcityff on
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David Lewis - I'm not sure how The Pentagon was a "limited incident". It wasn't as big at the WTC but it managed to create chaos and completely shut down the entire Capitol region of the country.
I did not respond to the Pentagon on 9/11. However, I'm a DC fireman and work with plenty who have. There were quite a few fire departments who responded, as well as the military working on site. Obviously this took place in Arlington, VA but the DCFD ended up taking control of the incident. Arlington is a much smaller department. DC has much more experience, especially with larger incidents.
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