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2012 Maydays
A year of communication we hate to hear, but train to say
As you listen ask yourself and your crew, what should a mayday from one of us sound like? Do we know what to say? Could we understand it if we were listening? Does our communication need help?
Audio videos are courtesy of RadioReference.com and Firefighter Dispatch.
Hartford, CT 3 January 2012
Levittown, NY 8 January 2012
Toronto, Canada 9 January 2012
Baltimore, MD 14 January 2012
Rockland County, NY 16 January 2012
Arlington, VA 8 February 2012
Philadlephia, PA 9 April 2012
Fairfax County, VA 25 August 2012
Detroit, MI 20 September 2012
Baltimore, MD 11 October 2012
Chicago, IL 2 November 2012
Brooklyn, NY 27 November 2012
Los Angeles, CA 28 November 2012
Mechanicsville, MD 3 December 2013
Staten Island, NY 13 December 2012
West Webster, NY 24 December 2012
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Moose on
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Here is one for everyone; how many of you actually know what LUNAR stands for? How many of you use the URGENT call for help as well and when do you use Urgent as opposed to Mayday?
Just trying to spark conversation.
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Permalink Reply by Norm Tindell on
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Our SOP's call for the use of the word "mayday" when clearing the channel. My opinion is that the word "mayday" is very easy to recognize in a less than optimal communications exchange. I would immediately listen more carefully if I were to hear it. The word "urgent" might not be as crisp.
Thanks for mentioning LUNAR. Had to go back and refresh my memory:
- L-Location
- U-Unit
- N-Name
- A-Assignment and Air Supply
- R-Resources Needed
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Permalink Reply by Jason W. Mullen on
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In general, we all should incorporate Mayday training into our regular training. It is something we may never use in 20+ years, but should always be able to transmit properly. It saves lives. It must, however, be muscle-memory. Another important point regarding Mayday; recognition of when to call/ transmit it!
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URGENT, for us, applies to situations such as rapidly changing conditions, important information such as a resident stating that all occupants are out and accounted for, etc.
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Anytime you feel you need it basically.
We train our crews to call it for anything, and to never feel like less of a firefighter if they do use it, and anyone that heckles someone or comes down on someone for using a mayday gets kicked off the fire scene and brought up on charges.
It should be used anytime you feel in danger, like getting lost or disoriented, feeling sick or some medical issue you are having, running low on air, getting separated from your crew/officer in bad smoke/heat conditions, falling, loosing water pressure, finding a large amount of victims and you need help getting them out, getting snagged or tangled...the list can go on and on but everyone here knows well enough.
With my idea behind the "Urgent" call is like Jason mentioned, trying to get important information to the IC or Safety Chief pertaining to the incident, like maybe finding a large propane cylinder in the rear of a house that is about to be in direct contact with flame and would need to get a line on it to protect it, "Vent team to command urgent...we need a line in the rear of the house to cover an exposure, 1000 gallon propane tank side charlie"
Or if you get confronted by a hectic homeowner while stretching the initial attack line and they tell you someone is still inside "Attack to command urgent...report of victims inside conducting a search now requesting additional backup"
Good job on the LUNAR acronym Norm, not everyone remembers that especially in the actual crisis situation, usually they just call for help!
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Permalink Reply by Danny Thomas on
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LUNAR to hard to remember. so i have been teachng the v.f.d. in 3 diffrent counties and still going, with a prop that i made from a fireschool that i went too. So WHO, WHAT, WHERE, AIR. is simpler and easier to remember. I also have pictures of the prop with measurements to show you. the cost of the prop is about
$ 300.00. You can use it for another training on breaching a wall, by replacing the back wall with drywall to call your mayday. My email is hardcorefirefighter98@yahoo.com tell me whatcha need, so by the end of my class you will have called 16 maydays with parameters to know what to do. 4 maydays will be on the prop ,and 12 will be on classroom time in full PPE's on and SCBA on air. I go over how well do you know your radio, with gloves on, your pass device, couplers which way to the truck, by reading your couplers. and much more. When i get the group ready to don there gear i have fun with them. I ask who can don there gear faster than me, now remember im a v.f.d to, so im not fast at all. I give a 6 pack of soda to the fastest one for fun.
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WHO, WHAT, WHERE, AIR. is what we use. real simple and to the point.
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