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FireFighter Pledge. Take a stand and sign!
By signing your name by clicking reply here, I am hearby agreeing that I will
1. Wear my seat belt while responding to or returning from any fire call, whether Apparatus or POV.
2. Exercise Due regard while driving, regardless of the nature of the call.
3. Exercise Safety on the fire ground, and always watch out for the safety of those around me.
4. Treat all firefighters fairly and with equality. (regardless of sex, or race)
5. Promote training to everyone on my department, and commit myself into the training my department offers.
It sounds foolish, but hopefully we can start a trend to getting eyes opened to the way things should be. Please type Name and Department
Revised addition 28/FEB/08
I plan on taking the masses of signatures and printing off copies. I plan on going to Local Legislature and working my way up to the State level to try and secure some more support (via elected officials) to end this seat belt controversy once and for all on a National Level. Once I have secured my states ear on the matter, I am willing and prepared to move to other states in my area to also Lobby the movement as well. If you all are as willing as I am to make a stand, sign on board and be part of the Movement. I will be posting segments updating progress here and on my blog. I do plan on trying to get as many signatures as I can to show we have overwhelming support as well. Keep the Signatures coming, and thank you
Revision 05/MAR/08
I want to thank all whom have signed and for your thoughts and opinions on the matter. These names will be a great help. Feel free for additional commentary on the matter at a seperate forum Post started by my good friend FASNY Training.
The site is
http://www.firefighternation.com/forum/topic/show?id=889755%3ATopic...
This has been used to bump it to the top of the forum postings on the main page but also as a commentary and support section as we try to get this moved along.
Thanks again.
ADDED JANUARY 5, 2009
I am psyched at the vitality this has taken on today. Thank you to WebChief for sparking the newest wave of signatures. This new wave is inspiring to continue on the mission of pestering the hell out of any politician who will bother to respond. I have gotten at least a dozen "we received your letter and due to volume can't respond to all"
If ANY of you out there want to do more, start writing your congressional delegates. Include the pledge. Show them that we are truely 1 nation who is done with the lack of seat belt's causing LODD's
Thank you all again for all the help and your pledges.
Mike
1. Wear my seat belt while responding to or returning from any fire call, whether Apparatus or POV.
2. Exercise Due regard while driving, regardless of the nature of the call.
3. Exercise Safety on the fire ground, and always watch out for the safety of those around me.
4. Treat all firefighters fairly and with equality. (regardless of sex, or race)
5. Promote training to everyone on my department, and commit myself into the training my department offers.
It sounds foolish, but hopefully we can start a trend to getting eyes opened to the way things should be. Please type Name and Department
Revised addition 28/FEB/08
I plan on taking the masses of signatures and printing off copies. I plan on going to Local Legislature and working my way up to the State level to try and secure some more support (via elected officials) to end this seat belt controversy once and for all on a National Level. Once I have secured my states ear on the matter, I am willing and prepared to move to other states in my area to also Lobby the movement as well. If you all are as willing as I am to make a stand, sign on board and be part of the Movement. I will be posting segments updating progress here and on my blog. I do plan on trying to get as many signatures as I can to show we have overwhelming support as well. Keep the Signatures coming, and thank you
Revision 05/MAR/08
I want to thank all whom have signed and for your thoughts and opinions on the matter. These names will be a great help. Feel free for additional commentary on the matter at a seperate forum Post started by my good friend FASNY Training.
The site is
http://www.firefighternation.com/forum/topic/show?id=889755%3ATopic...
This has been used to bump it to the top of the forum postings on the main page but also as a commentary and support section as we try to get this moved along.
Thanks again.
ADDED JANUARY 5, 2009
I am psyched at the vitality this has taken on today. Thank you to WebChief for sparking the newest wave of signatures. This new wave is inspiring to continue on the mission of pestering the hell out of any politician who will bother to respond. I have gotten at least a dozen "we received your letter and due to volume can't respond to all"
If ANY of you out there want to do more, start writing your congressional delegates. Include the pledge. Show them that we are truely 1 nation who is done with the lack of seat belt's causing LODD's
Thank you all again for all the help and your pledges.
Mike
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by J. D. Rinard on
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Signed,
Jeffrey Dale Rinard
Hutsonville Township Fire Department
Hutsonville, Illinois 62433
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Permalink Reply by Marvin Hawk on
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I'M all in favor of the pledge but have two questions for you.
What do you do when you have seat belts that meet the national standard of 215 lbs but have a FF that weights 250 lbs and the seat belts that are on the apparatus are so old that there are no extenders available for that system and there is no retro fit that lines up with your apparatus? #2 What do you do if your apparatus is so old that it doesn't have seat belts to begin with, and again retro fit is not an option?
NHTSA says belts must fit around the standard crash dummy in the most forward sitting position, plus 4 inches. The dummy, based on 1960 statistics, represents what NHTSA says is the 95th percentile male. In other words, at about 6 feet and 215 pounds, the dummy is supposed to be big enough to represent 95% of American males and 99% of American females.
Some groups appear to be especially hurt by the old standard. The 95th percentile for non-Hispanic black females, 40-49, is 276 pounds; it is about 250 pounds for black women in their 30s and 50s. The 95th percentile for white males 40-49 is 256 pounds. My additional concern is that even if you have a 215Lb Firefighter what happens when you dress them for winter MVA type weather and then put the full PPE on on top of that I'll admit to guessing here but I guess that at least in bulk they now approach a 250 lb size. The answer I see is that we not only need to be proactive in the wearing of belts but for our own good we need to be proactive in getting the standard for seat belts changed. How many of our MVA customers out there can we possibly save instead of treat, if they were wearing seat belts that fit instead of no seat belt at all.
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Permalink Reply by lauryn stapleton "lilly" on
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lauryn stapleton
junoir firefighter
glenn dale fire department
yes to everything but #1 i always forget my seat belt . it chokes me alot
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Permalink Reply by Timothy Crowell on
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Tim Crowell
Sandusky Fire Department, Sandusky Ohio
Ballville Volunteer Fire Department, Fremont Ohio
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Permalink Reply by Frank Manza on
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Vancouver fire department. Vancouver Wash
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Permalink Reply by Wade Seely on
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Wade Seely
Fort Lupton Fire Dept.
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Permalink Reply by laurie hamer on
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i'm a rescue person, not a firefighter but i'll sign. safety should always be the number one priority. be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
laurie/danielson fire department
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Permalink Reply by Norm Tindell on
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Norm Tindell
Cresson (TX) Fire Department
Best of luck!
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Permalink Reply by Mike Gemberling on
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Mike Gemberling
Morse Fall Lake Fire Department
Ely MN
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Permalink Reply by Keith Castleberry on
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Keith Castleberry
Sumter Co fire
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Permalink Reply by jason fowler on
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Jason Fowler
Newaygo Fire Dept.
Newaygo MI
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