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Permalink Reply by Tony P on October 18, 2009 at 7:42am

Firstly Jason, do the laws in the Philippines allow the carrying of firearms? That one would come first I should think. Secondly, from chat I don't think that NFPA has much bearing up there!

For us, no firearms allowed. My fire service won't allow the carrying of firearms on vehicles.

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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on October 18, 2009 at 10:54am

Thanks Tony,the Philippines allows a person to carry concealed if they have a permits. As for fire and EMS, there are pretty much no laws yet but many people carry. I am looking to find out what are the rules of different departments so that I can adapt some rules to my brigade.

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Permalink Reply by Oldman on October 18, 2009 at 4:49pm

My department prohibits weapons of any kind especially firearms on department property, even if it is in a personal vehicle.

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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on October 18, 2009 at 11:18pm

Thanks Oldman, I appreciate the comment.

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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on October 18, 2009 at 11:21pm

That would be ditto here as well, as as far as I know leaving a gun in a car is a violation of the law here, it would NOT be considered to be secure. Pretty much the permit is for an individual to carry a concealed gun, not to leave it in their vehicle.

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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on October 18, 2009 at 11:40pm

Thanks, I know in the State of Florida you can have your firearm in your vehicle for transport but you must take it out when you leave the vehicle because of the same reason you stated.

If NFPA does not cover firefighters carrying firearms, hmm, that should be good enough reason for a firefighter to not carry while on duty or while at their station.

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Permalink Reply by Smoke Eater on October 19, 2009 at 12:48am

We do not allow firearms of any kind on the dept. grounds, period. If you forget you have it on you and you respond, the police would be more than happy to hold on to it and return it to you at the station after the call but you can expect to get some kind of disciplinary action from it.

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Permalink Reply by David Fletcher, CFPS on October 19, 2009 at 1:03am

Jason, I was a volunteer firefighter and a full time law enforcement officer. I usually did have my weapon on me and more than once was wearing my police uniform under my turnout gear. I had to secure my duty belt in my car of course to be able to wear the turn out gear. I carried concealed all the time and my department did not have any issue with it, due to my LE status.

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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on October 19, 2009 at 2:43am

Thanks Captain 703 and David. What are the exact disciplinary measures that your department has for accidentally bringing your firearm into your station?

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Permalink Reply by Smoke Eater on October 19, 2009 at 2:49am

Suspension pending an interview with the officers.

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Permalink Reply by Jason McDonald on October 19, 2009 at 3:29am

Thanks, this information is a huge help to me.

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Permalink Reply by Brian A Niemczyk on October 19, 2009 at 7:31am

Hey, I'm a firefighter for the Marine Corps and we do not carry our rifles or sidearms to the station. Our weapons remain at the station armory until we need them. I believe that if the military doesn't carry at the work place niether should your department, unless you are in a danger/combat zone.

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