I was just wondering on who else can go direct, if we here the trucks are in route we can go direct otherwards we have to swing in and get a truck. Is just my department? The other night i went direct to a mva first on scene!!
Is it embarrassing? I don't know. Maybe it's embarrassing to make every call, every time because you don't have a job or any form of social life and hang out at the fire hall 24/7. Just a thought. I don't like missing the truck either, but if I do because I'm at work/family/home obligations, I guess I don't get the %90 response award in Dec. Oh well, I'll sleep fine.
For an EMS assist call, we go to scene in POV's. If it's dispatched QRS, we are supposed to get a QRS certified vehicle, although in practice we usually go to scene POV because it's quicker, or you may not get more than 2 guys at 3 a.m. We just work off EMS's equipment. All other calls, everyone to station except chief officers, no exceptions.
We are a rural dept. most of our members cary there TOG in their vehicle. The members that live near the station usually have the trucks out and on the way within minutes of the first tones. The only time we are asked to report to the station first is in mutual aid calls.
We have an automatic aid agreement with Reno Fire in our district. If it is a medical call near my house, I'll go to the scene. Otherwise, I'll try to go to the station. On fire calls, we go to the station.
Quick Response Service, for medical calls, assisting EMS. Every piece of apparatus that runs QRS needs to be certified through the state dept. of health for the BLS, non-transporting requirement in both equipment and personnel certifications. That's in PA, anyway.
We had a problem a few years ago with everybody going direct. 20 people on scene and no fire apparatus. Now, only the Chief Officers or the Station Captain are allowed to go direct. The rest report to the station. If you miss the truck, standby at the station. The exception is if it is a major incident and a "manpower" call is sent out. Members may then go POV to the scene, but must park at least 1000' away.
Awesome topic. I didn't realize there were so many deparments that still responded directly to the scene. Our dept use to do that. We would have a firefighter on scene within minutes of the call. Very comforting to the home owner that someone was there to help so fast. Not much a person can do without equipment though. Problems that came up with that type of response was of course the number of vehicles on scene, and of course the number of vehicles rushing to the scene increases the chances of crashes etc., the number of members arriving at various times and difficulty in keeping track of who was there.. accountability system was not a huge priority at that time... it should be all the time... free lancing was huge. guys would arrive ahead of IC sometimes and just start doing! No real plan. In many cases.. guys would be running into the building without a hose, without air, and without tools.. despite the fact that they know no one was in. Keeping dirty contaminated turnout gear at home or in your own vehicle, is not a great idea.. kids that ride in the vehicle could be exposed to the contaminants etc. Washing dirty gear at home in the same washer that you wash your family's clothes in... not good... As long as there is a good well thought out plan, and it works and the service gets delivered to the customer and everything is as safe as it can be.
Permalink Reply by DUST on August 18, 2009 at 10:48am
Those of us that are EMTs go directly to the scene of medical calls pov, the department supplies each of us with a basic medical bag. All other calls we go to the station.
Angela, our firefighters go to the station and respond on the trucks only. No one other then myself or Asst Chief goes to the scene directly. We respond with quick attack/rescue vehicles.
We are rural dept also I usually try to get to the firehouse but I usually get about halfway and the trucks are rolling. So I follow them to the scene.