It appears the Dynasty Wanxin Hotel was gutted but did not collapse. Has there been any other steel-frame building that has collapsed due to fire damage alone?
Odd that on 911 not one, not two, but three buildings collapsed due to fire.
What do professional fire fighters think about this?
OK Rondo, it fell down, the towers collapsed this has been discussed a thousand times on this site. Nothing has changed, the towers collapsed because they were filled with burning jet fuel. It is pretty easy. Take you goofy shit elsewhere.
Also, for the record. I'm not bothered by anyone calling me names or throwing insults at me. I'm very secure with my level of intelligence and I have no desire to insult any of you back; that would only distract from the point that I'm trying to make. I got on here because I actually care about my fellow man(that includes you) and the appalling state that our once-great country is in.
Call me a conspiracy theorist or an idiot all day long, I don't care. I'm being honest in my posts. I'm not here trying to incite anger or civil unrest. I am simply aware of information that most are not.
I'm simply having a hard time understanding our response to that event. It seems like we are being sold a solution that is never going to actually solve anything.
Am I to just accept that America is a war machine? ...that we are going to be involved in an endless war? I fail to see that as a viable solution. The sooner I can get people to realize that our response to 9/11 is a scam. Can you tell me what we are trying to accomplish? Are we going to kill all Muslims?
So, let me see here.... 15 hijackers from Saudi Arabia, 2 from the UAE, 1 from Lebanon and 1 from Egypt that were trained in America attacked the US with airplanes, so we decide to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan... sounds brilliant.
How about this: I'll punch Jack in the face to pay David's mortgage. That makes just about as much sense.
That is exactly why I do not beleive anything you say David Little. You have not established any credentials, you have not shown any FF knowledge, you are just stiring the pot for no apparent reason. So, STFU.
"terrorists" were NOT religious fanatics...They were patsies.
Well of course they were, other wise it wouldn't fit into your theory.
...take a look at the recent bombing attempt in Portland.
So why then didn't the FBI allow the bombing to occur? It certainly would have strengthened the *government's* position on terrorism.
If you research WTC bombing in 93, you'll see that that's what happened. The FBI used real explosives when they said they were just setting up a sting....
So then the real culprit is the FBI?
FBI's original plan was for Salem to supply the conspirators with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that the FBI chose to use him for other purposes instead.
So Salem claims that he was duped, that his part in the first Tower bombing was purely innocent and once again the FBI turned rogue and used him?
There appear to be three denominations of 9/11 truth seekers: 1) It occurred as claimed but with the government's foreknowledge and tacit approval; 2) It occurred as claimed, only the government was actually involved and behind the entire operation and; 3) It happened, but not as claimed, there were no planes and it was all digitally created by the media in concert with the government, and remote controlled planes and/or missiles were used. A final 'denomination', if you will, could be considered to be a *reformed* version, which believes that parts of 1-3 are true.
Clearly this is no way around this impasse. You guy are born-again believers of a huge government conspiracy and we (or at least, according to Lyttle, I am) are just shills for the government. You boys have become rabidly dogmatic in your belief, so much so that there is NO truth other than that which you believe to be true. All others are dupes or agents.
Really, how is this NOT delusional paranoia?