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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Preception Lindsay, while you find it hilarious and I am sure others will not.
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OK I hear what you are saying, "I learned to take a joke" but I have worked with people who stated that before and then ultimately something changed.
What if your department didn't have a policy on wearing it, and the guy who wore it to the station, see's nothing wrong with it, (freedom of speech) and his attitude reflects the morals of the shirt. See my point?
And your wrong about not being in the service, (without the shirt) I know grown men who have that attitude just like (Rescue Me) portrayed, who had to be babysat on calls where there were attractive, women who love the firefighters on the scene.
Ever wonder why we don't see "chicks" depicted in cop uniforms like this?
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Permalink Reply by Forsaken Firefighter on
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I honestly have not seen too many police shirts with a similar depiction...
I beg to differ.... I know a cop who has a hat that says " The person wearing this hat is a police officer, so callmly lay on your back and do what ever the nice police man says" and you have things like this....
So my augment is, if one or two people wearing shirts like this makes the entire FF field look bed then what do these thins do for the police?
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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on
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Richard, do you really think it's okay to wear that shirt around town and NOT think that some 9 or 10 year old is going to see it and ask mom, in a loud voice, "Mom, what's Firefighter Dick?"
It's simply inappropriate. You can feel free to curse and tell dirty jokes all you want, but would you do it where children would hear you? It is freedom of speech but like Lindsay pointed out, it's about common sense.
If someone thinks that wearing that shirt (or others) is fine, then I suspect that they are lacking common sense as well as common courtesy. It's rude, impolite and in bad taste (when worn in public). If, on the other hand, you choose to wear it while -in your yard- skinning out a deer or installing more lights on your POV, then I'm sure it would be fine.
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Permalink Reply by Bill Brierton on
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Regardless of how some feel about the above shirt, I wouldn't wear it. It's just not for me. And believe me, I have alot of fire fighter t-shirts to wear.
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The dancer cops, photo shopped.
The cop on the trike, a joke.
The cop on the bike with the pig on the handle bars, taking the sting out of the word. Time was when cops were referred to as "pigs", until they co-opted the word as an acronym for
Pride
Integrity
Guts
It's all about perception, both good and bad and for most people, perception IS reality. If you think wearing a Firefighter Dick tee shirt is in good taste and acceptable where you live then I guess everyone gets what they deserve.
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I do not see how a disciplinary action would have to do with a shirt that is some ones PERSONAL attire.... The chief has no say so in what some one wears in there own time and if he believes he does, then I am sure more then one persons attorneys would be in contact with him and the board. I am sorry but because you have the title of Chief does not give you the right to tell some one what they can and can not wear. He could ask them to remove it or tell them not to wear it on call or at the station, but not to wear it at all is over stepping his authority and is a direct violation of there civil rights.
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What make the jokes others do different from the jokes we have? Are they some how more important then us so they can get away with it? Also if you want to talk history of Cops then lets do so, The word cop comes from the early 1900s when they where called Coppers because of the copper badges and buttons they whore. It was a sign of disrespect at the time to be law enforcement because most of the people where ether afraid of or where in a gang (mob) so they would not call them Police or LEOs because it was considered disrespectful to call them coppers as the gangs did. Over time it was shortened to Cop or Cops. As for the phrase "pig" Starting in August 1968 and for a number of years afterwards, police officers were called pigs by young people, the disenchanted and even the media. This came about when a group who called themselves the Yippies, protested near the 1968 National Democratic Convention in Chicago. They had a small pig as their presidential candidate, and when police disrupted their demonstration, they started to call the police pigs. The expression caught on. Also because eat the time a lot of police where on the take and could be bought so they where said to be "as dirty as pigs". Also if here are some other terms for you....
5-O - Slang for police officers and/or a warning that police are approaching. Derived from the television show Hawaii Five-O.
Barney - Term coined after Barney Fife from The Andy Griffith Show.
Bear - Bear
Short for "Smokey Bear" in reference to the hats worn by some law enforcement officers similar to the ranger hat worn by "Smokey Bear". "Bear bait" is a reference to speeders, who may draw the attention of the police and allow slightly slower traffic to exceed the speed limit in their wake. "Bear in the Air" is a reference to a police chopper. "Bear in a plain brown wrapper" is a reference to an unmarked patrol car.
Berry or Boys in blue - Originating from blueberry, referring to the blue uniform most officers wear.
Flatfoot - A term that refers to the large amount of walking that a police officer would do, thus causing flat feet.
G-Man - American slang for federal law enforcement, or "government men." Eventually used to refer to all law enforcement.
Narc - Abbreviated form of "Narcotics Agent"
Rollers - An American term believed to have originated in the San Francisco Bay Area. Also a connection for when police car lights are turned on because they roll in circles.
Whoop-Whoop - Used across the American South in reference to a patrol car's siren.
I can do this all day.... So if you want to sound smart Jack then you go right ahead....
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Dave,
Interesting, I'm not at all concerned about sounding smart. I could care less about that. You on the other hand seem to like to dance around the issues and present a lot of irrelevant stuff.
The three pictures I addressed I did so to prove a point, that they were not at all disrespectful. I mentioned the PIG because the bike cop had one on his handle bar...shows confidence and poise.
As to the tee shirts you posted, I've never seen anyone wear them, ever. By the same token I've never seen anyone wearing the firefighter ones either. My point (and that of others here) is that firefighter dick, big johnson et. al tee shirts are childish, immature, inappropriate and simply in bad taste. You are certainly entitled to wear any of them you so choose, the fact that it reflects on your character is something that you have to deal with.
If, on the other hand you still don't get it (and I'm sure you don't) there really is no point in further discussing the issue with you. Rather than address the issue(s) you appear to have some insecurity about your own intelligence which leads you to write such things as "So if you want to sound smart Jack then you go right ahead....".
I am a bit confused why you would think that presenting a logical and coherent argument is somehow trying to 'sounding smart'. I can't help it if I am, and that I happen to be educated as well. And so as not to insult people I refuse to talk down to them, although I am seriously reconsidering that in further discussing this with you.
As it stands, some people just don't (and never will) get it. I'm sure you're not alone.
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Permalink Reply by Richard Armstrong on
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Ya I think that there should be a law passed that the guy who makes the shirt should get life in prison and anyone caught waering it should get 10 yrs. at least.And anything else that offends people should not be tolerated in society.Armed guards should be place around all cities and towns and anyone doing anything wrong like wearing any other shirt or hat should be takin into custody and dealt with by Jack and FETC.I would move to Russia or China where you would have a little freedom.Get a grip guys!!
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Like I said, some people get it, some people don't. Wear your stemwhacker shirt with pride.
And while you may not have noticed, it's NOT about your right to wear it, it's simply about being appropriate and classy. I'm guessing neither of those are relevant to you so don't worry about what FETC or I think. Now that I think about it, isn't Dick a nickname for Richard? NOW I understand your issue with this discussion.
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Richard - wow that came from left field. Move to China and get a little freedom? I questioned your thoughts on responding with a couple of beers on board. You stated it. Which opens the door for debate, right? I can bury you with firefighters getting into trouble with alcohol related stories. I can also tell you, your fire chief will love you even more when they have to deal with it.... seen good guys who lost their careers over others personal beliefs.
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