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cell phones at your department..
well this is more for you volunteers. but what is the sop for having cell phones while at your department like during meetings and on calls? my department allows cell phones but they just ask that you dont answer them during calls. but im just curious because of a certain situation thats goin on with another person in my department and me.
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Permalink Reply by Melissa on
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We don't have any rules about using cell phones. Often on calls we will use our personal cells to call the ER to give the pt info and our ETA. We no longer use the radio for that. We don't answer them when we are doing pt care or in a meeting. Other than that... we don't have any trouble
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Permalink Reply by mike on
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and thats what started this whole discussion. i was using my phone to relay information to dispatch. and the new member twisted it all up even after our officers spoke to him about it and it is costing me alot. mainly a full time paid position because that dep was told about it from somebody our member told and it cost me a chance at a job i really want.
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Permalink Reply by Robert on
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Just curious but what did this new member say that you did? Does your Com Center have a tape of the conversation?
Couple things to add. There is nothing more frustrating to an instructor than ringing cell phones during training. Leave em in the truck! We will use them on calls for call related info only. If its your girlfriend calling you best just ignor it until the call is complete and bettrer yet leave it in the truck! One other point. If a command officer is on the scene you should not be relaying info to the Com Center. Thats his job.
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Permalink Reply by coryE56 on
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No cell phone use in the fire truck other than that nothing has been mentioned
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Permalink Reply by PA Firefighter on
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It's not only the volunteers that have problems with phones. Right now we have pictures and videos of our incidents popping up. I wouldn't mind but we don't have the luxury of an abundance of manpower, So what is not getting done while they are taking pictures? We already have an so that prohibits phone use while training or doing public relations programs. If anyone has an answer I'll be glad for the help.
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the police department was takin pictures because it was possible arson. and i was on the phone with dispatc relayin information because there was another fire goin on at the same time and couldnt get a word in on the radio.
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i was command on this scene. and yes they do. and he is goin around tellin everybody and anybody that all i do is talk and text on my phone when on scene and it cost me a chance at a job i really wanted a fulltime paid position with a city fire dep. another thing is he wasnt even on that call. i was in one of the pictures that pd took with me on my phone. they didnt mean to get me in the picture though.
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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From a vol viewpoint. Off or vibrate only when in a meeting or training. At calls? You have no need to answer a private call - you're there to do a job. Our three trucks have phones fitted, you can use one of them on a long job to get messages home.
Taking personal phones away on Strike Teams for wildfire is officially discouraged. Take one away and damage or lose it - don't try to claim for a replacement because it won't happen.
Mike - couldn't a letter from your Chief about your reported phone use clear things with the career FD? And are you saying that this person is still a member after being cautioned about his tale-bearing and continuing to do so?
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yes he is still a member after being cautioned. and my chief is out of town for the next month on business and by time he gets back im pretty sure the position will be filled. And also this member gets pissed with the officers and talks back and runs off at the mouth when they dont let him do anything on major calls i.e. structure fires and serious mva's. he thinks that only the officers have seniority over him in the dep and no other firefighter can tell him what to do or how to do it. and on that note our dep only has three officers and only two of them are active in the dep. so most of the time its other fire fighters runnin commands at the calls and things. he has only been in this dep for a year. and never been around any emergency services before our dep. ive had problems with this guy in the past cursin me out on scene of an mva when i was command and ASKED him to stay by the truck and do traffic since he had only the basic hours to ride truck he had never worked and mva before and it was a fatality accident to.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Montgomery on
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Pretty simple rules really - no mobile phones on in meetings (only exceptions are for those on call for their employment) and then they must be set to meeting mode and the member must leave the meeting room before speaking.
At calls, if they ain't busy then I'll find them something to do! We have a truck phone, permanently mounted with signal boost, etc. This isn't always practical and I would expect our officers to use their phones as required. Generally members may have permission to use the truck phone for long-duration events to notify partners, etc.
One rule that I haven't seen anyone else cover is the use of phone camera's. Generally members are NOT to use phone camera's without specific permission from the OIC. As a Chief I have used mine for evidential stuff, i.e., where/ how vehicles where before an extraction starts if the Police aren't on scene. Also for frequent and suspicious small wildland fires in the same area for surreptitiously photographing those watching to try and identify the arsonist.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Brown on
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OFF OFF OFF THATS IT
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Permalink Reply by Rescue601 on
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Sounds like you have larger issues on the department then who is on the cell phone. Additionally on a fire scene the only firefighter that can give another firefighter an order is the IC or one of his appointed staff. I would recommend making the firefighter take ICS 100, 200, 700 and 800 as soon as possible.
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