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Plagiarism Can Cost You In More Ways Than One!
I have noticed that, especially over in the Blogs section that alot of "original" work is showing up.
The funny thing is, people are so stupid, that they don't even do a search, but will post the exact same narrative or poem, DOES NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR CREDIT and therefore, is attempting to pass the work off as their own. One clue for some of you that are curious is this: do a member search and read some the "author's" posts with the bad spelling and grammar and then read one of "their" narratives or poems and all of a sudden, Billy Backroads has morphed into Bill Shakespeare! Too funny!
Now, I've been watching this for some time and that is why I applied for and was granted copyrights for my "intellectual properties".
See, I love to share my thoughts, experiences and sources with people here and have, on occasion, given some permission to use it, with the understanding that the source is acknowledged. I have no problem with that. However; I loathe and despise people who will cut and paste someone else's hard work and pass it as their own. There is not a lower form of slithering reptile than would do something like that.
A few years ago, someone was using my username in a firefighter chatroom and because of my notoriety, someone contacted me. I went to the chatroom and started up a chat with this individual. Did you know that you could actually stutter on-line? When I was through with him, he was never heard from again; at least not as my persona.
If you are impacted by someone else's work, let that person know. If you want to share it, ASK THE SOURCE FOR PERMISSION.
As for my stuff, forum discussions are free.
Articles that I post in Blogs ARE protected by copyright.
If that sounds presumptive and ubiquitous (that's for Allen), I apologize, but anyone foolish or stupid enough to plagiarize-i.e. steal-someone else's work does NOT deserve respect; only scorn.
There is alot of very good information being posted by some very good writers. They deserve to be recognized for that effort. If you can't give them that, then don't be surprised when you are hit with a legal notice.
The funny thing is, people are so stupid, that they don't even do a search, but will post the exact same narrative or poem, DOES NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR CREDIT and therefore, is attempting to pass the work off as their own. One clue for some of you that are curious is this: do a member search and read some the "author's" posts with the bad spelling and grammar and then read one of "their" narratives or poems and all of a sudden, Billy Backroads has morphed into Bill Shakespeare! Too funny!
Now, I've been watching this for some time and that is why I applied for and was granted copyrights for my "intellectual properties".
See, I love to share my thoughts, experiences and sources with people here and have, on occasion, given some permission to use it, with the understanding that the source is acknowledged. I have no problem with that. However; I loathe and despise people who will cut and paste someone else's hard work and pass it as their own. There is not a lower form of slithering reptile than would do something like that.
A few years ago, someone was using my username in a firefighter chatroom and because of my notoriety, someone contacted me. I went to the chatroom and started up a chat with this individual. Did you know that you could actually stutter on-line? When I was through with him, he was never heard from again; at least not as my persona.
If you are impacted by someone else's work, let that person know. If you want to share it, ASK THE SOURCE FOR PERMISSION.
As for my stuff, forum discussions are free.
Articles that I post in Blogs ARE protected by copyright.
If that sounds presumptive and ubiquitous (that's for Allen), I apologize, but anyone foolish or stupid enough to plagiarize-i.e. steal-someone else's work does NOT deserve respect; only scorn.
There is alot of very good information being posted by some very good writers. They deserve to be recognized for that effort. If you can't give them that, then don't be surprised when you are hit with a legal notice.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Stoltz on
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What is the proper form for citing the author and/or source when posting on the web? Specifically, do you say "The following is from...." or put the source after, at the bottom?
A few months back I quoted Billy G and I believe I had placed the reference at the bottom. A member posted back something to the effect that I needed to cite the reference, it was taken from Billy's web site, etc. I still don't know if it was a "form" problem or a reading problem.
I guess it would be best to mention it up front, to prevent the latter from occurring. -
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Permalink Reply by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on
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Joe;
It sounds as if you made every effort to cite your source. I would guess that the only thing you could add would be the specific article that was quoted.
I hope people don't take this discussion the wrong way. It is not about not wanting to share information. It is about the imposters, wannabees, fakes and frauds wanting to weigh in with someone else's documented intellectual pieces. It is wrong and it is illegal.
I have had over 100 articles published. There is no question that some of them have had my name removed from them and someone else's name put in its place. Sorry; that is not imitation; that is plagiarism. Using someone else's work because some are too lazy to do their own is unacceptable in my mind. I will help anyone in any way I can, but I will not deliver a document with "your name here" at the top. We will work collaboratively and then can turn in the finished work. -
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Permalink Reply by Tiger Schmittendorf on
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Thanks for bringing this up Art -
The first logical step in citing someone else's work should be to ASK PERMISSION.
However, if simply including an excerpt or quote from the originator, cite the author, the publication or web site, and the date of publication at the very least.
Doing so lends credibility to their writings - and yours.
Perhaps the WebChief should include some helpful hints for keeping your blogs and discussion groups within the confines of the law and the ideals of common courtesy.
Common courtesy - now there's another lost art [and blog topic.]
Stay safe. Train often. -
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I don't have much, but it's MINE.
And if I quote something, the author WILL get credit.
And I will never pass their work off as mine.
And I will back up what I say.
And I will say it the only way I know how.
And if someone doesn't like it, welcome to my world and don't let the door hit you where you sit on your way back out. -
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Permalink Reply by Mary Ellen Shea on
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Art,
Not sure if you're aware of it, but a news producer on a major news network--think it was CBS, not sure, was fired earlier this year for plagiarizing a blogpost. There can be ramifications beyond legal, such as the loss of respect among your peers, loss of personal validation and integrity etc.
There's a free tool called Copyscape, and you can search the internet for any verbatim reproductions of your work. www.copyscape.com
I checked mine, and was equally gratified and disheartened that no one saw fit to steal my original thoughts and ideas. -
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My god, people; if you're going to cut and paste works from "unknown authors", at least do a search of the blogs before you do. We currently have three blogs going with "Twas the Night before..."
DO A SEARCH FIRST.
And if you aren't the author, say so.
It's getting ridiculous. -
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How about starting a blogger group for the original writers on here Art? I was just noticing the proliference of pieces posted for Twas the Blah Blah Blah....
and honestly? I would be ecstatic to see a reduction in the number of discussions about fire truck colors.
Snore. -
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And most of those people can't even spell "regurgitate."
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which just ties into why we need a sub-space on here...or a supra-space...however you want to look at it.
Frankly, I'm a little tired of slogging through illiterate posts and responses...by the time I've ascertained what it was the person wanted to say after wading through all the spelling and grammar errors, I either no longer care or have moved on. -
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I wonder if Dave would give us "featured blogger" status similar to my http://buffalo.yourhub.com/Southtowns site.
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Permalink Reply by Allen Wahlstrom on
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I feel like such the wordsmith. And Art I might actually be omnipresent...thats kinda like ubiquitous for those of you who needed to look it up. See this is the bain of having an uncle who drug me to the library every saturday from the age of 9-16. I was a voluntold, not a volunteer at the library those years and can still manage the dewey decimal system. So thanks Art for the Ref!
Now seriously I have to agree with Art on this one. People it's simple. If you write it, claim it. If you post others thoughts, give them credit and if you post thoughts that might have been read somewhere but your id has pulled it from the nether, well say Author Unknown. Or be a sport and do a search online, if its a quote, it's likely you'll find it.
As for my art, I have lost many thousands of dollars from unauthorized use, and I learned early on to do just as Art has done. Intellectual property is just that property. Don't Steal It! -
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Angel,
As long as you cite an external source, even if you don't who who that source is, precisely; you are still notifying your audience that what they are reading is not your original work.
Blogging is no different from writing a one or ten page paper for college. If you're referring to someone else's work, say so, if you're using someone else's quote, say so, if you're using someone else's words--give the author credit.
The blessing of blogging is that you don't have to cite your work in any particular style or use footnotes [unless you want to, but that would make you a bit ...anal]. -
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