Oh come on you guys. The pipe man was a newbie and they were just finding out how big his balls were.
Comment by Gregory Borg on April 13, 2011 at 4:21pm
Well Jason, it looks like they were first due, and went after it. What did they do wrong? They put the fire out, they did risk-v-gain and put it out. Is that not what we are supposed to do. They had the right gear, the right tools and did the job. Where did they go wrong?
Comment by Pararescue on April 13, 2011 at 11:45am
This is a great example of WHAT NOT TO DO at a f/i house fire. Engine 2 is lucky everyone went home. Gregory Borg, "Good job, head first"??? Yeah, head first... stop and think!
Wow, All i can say is i am pretty sure they could have achieved the same results from the outside of the building and then make entry after they have reduced the btu's. Transitional attack (knocking the fire down from the outside prior to entry) then hitting the remaining hot spots from interior of the structure might have been safer for all. I was not there, only one angle so they may have been only on the front porch area and not actually in the building.
Relax its already a bulldozer job. Take a minute evaluate the situation. Put out the fire on the ground that you are pulling your hose over, then knock it down as you go. Never leave fire burning above you. As a city firefighter I teach pound into my guys that the three things that will get you on a fire is fire above fire below and a rapid fire event, (flash backdraft wind fed etc. ), It is understood heart and accidents are the number 1 killers, but we have addressed them appropriately.
How about a rapid risk vs gain assessment prior to making an interior attack on a fully involved structure... any occupants would not survive in that environment! If your mark of success is being aggressive no matter what, then it looks like that objective was met. My advice in this case slow down a bit and take a good look at what you are trying to achieve before committing your valued firefighters into such a hostile fire situation. Thanks!
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