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Comment by Mark on October 10, 2008 at 2:16pm

I agree it was already vented why another ? When they opened the roof you could see the glow just a waste of resourses on the roof. What i didn't see was any water flow other than on the roof where the 7 were.

Comment by VaLeRiE cRaWfOrD on October 10, 2008 at 12:44pm

Yes how many guy do u need on a roof? it is my guest that u need about 3 guy one on the K-12 and two on the line so what the heel is going on at this dept.???????????????

Comment by Randy Leizear Jr. on October 10, 2008 at 11:04am

yeah why bother its already vented and you are risking way too many firefighters on that one.

Comment by Ron Graner on October 10, 2008 at 10:56am

What the hell is going on with the leaders of our profession?
It seems that even after the many discussions RE Boston truck operations awhile back the question of poor incident management and lack of concern for firefighter safety has spread across the nation.
Is it inexperienced and/or untrained officers in command of companies?
Is it inexperienced and/or untrained officers in command of sectors or incidents?
Is it inexperienced and/or untrained officers in charge of conducting post incident reviews and failing to take corrective actions with those that allow these things to continue across the fire service?
The one thing it is NOT, is the lack of brave men and women who are willing to do what their leaders ask them to do even at the risk of their own lives.
Our brave firefighters deserve better leaders!

Comment by Bob Allard on October 10, 2008 at 10:46am

I agreee, too many on the roof, and this may be small but did anyone have there air-pak on proper, I see they may have had them on there backs but no one wearing a mask, do we not teach wearing the pack and the mask when fighting fires inside and out.

Don't know , maybe they are different. Get off the roof

Comment by Tom Eades on October 10, 2008 at 9:57am

Good crew integrity--but does anybody actually know what they're trying to accomplish...?

Comment by Christopher Kurtz on October 10, 2008 at 9:26am

It's a discretionary call, I confess I don't even know what our sog is on this, but it did seem to me that one guy on the chainsaw, one on the axe, one on the hose would be fine. As soon as those vent holes were cut, however, I'd want to get down ASAP. No sense hanging around up there. Having said that, I would NEVER second guess these guys, because I was not there, and I don't know all the details. Thanks for the video! I love the topic. BE SAFE OUT THERE!!!

Comment by Lesley Welch 1627 on October 10, 2008 at 9:12am

That looked pretty stupid! Look at how many could have been hurt if that collapsed. My chief probably would have suspended us all for such stupidity.

Comment by Mike Lewis on October 10, 2008 at 6:44am

Um,,,why?

Comment by Dave Gould on October 10, 2008 at 5:50am

WOW, amazing they didn't fall in!! The roof was already venting in at least 2 other sections. This is why we need competent officers to be in charge. This was a tradgedy waiting to happen. Lets hope they wear their seatbelts!!

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