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Comment by Dave Reed on April 9, 2009 at 6:01pm

Very Good --I like it
There is a method as I said witch uses rope and the ladder
The ladder is placed against the building with top touching above the window this is used as a high point rope anchor. There are a few different ways to thread the rope threw the rungs of the ladder. It is best to anchor one end of the rope to the top rung then attach the pulley and send this double rope and pulley to attach to the downed FF. The remaining bulk of rope is to remain out side. Also the long end should weave thre the ladder then to a FF witch will belay the FF down.
The reason for the pulley inside is that now it is used to lift the FF with a 2 :1 mechanical advantage so the both rescue FF's can lift the downed FF one by lift the other by pulling the rope outsid with will draw thhe FF up to the top rung.
Once clear the inside FF pushes the FF out the window ( Ya Hoo!) lol
Good job Lt.
You are quick on your feet and thinking out side the "Box"

Comment by Jimmy Lin on April 9, 2009 at 10:17am

Good,if I were the commander.I will let one FF stands out of the window,the other FF in the room lifts the downed FF,put him/her on the ladder.Now,the ladder is a "lifter".Using a rope to peg him on the lifter(ladder),and push him out of the window,the one who stands outside will be assistant.After it is done,the FF in the room quickly gets out and escape.What do you say to my plan?

Comment by Dave Reed on April 8, 2009 at 12:13pm

There are several methods that can be used to rescue the FF and these a later discussed after the students are asked to perform one method. This method is done with two FF's one inside with the downed FF and one in the window on a ground ladder. The challenge is to try to pass the FF to the awaiting FF on the ground ladder several methods are shown to beat this challenge.
Also the purpose is to see how each group reacts and solves this difficult maneuver.

It is good that you have decided to use rope as a tool to solve this problem, it is an option.
but what if you had no tools but only 2 FF's and a Ladder ,how would you do ?

(Note) The Rope method is difficult under smokey conditions.

Comment by Dave Reed on April 8, 2009 at 11:11am

To learn more about the Denver Drill ....Google Denver Drill

Comment by Dave Reed on April 8, 2009 at 11:10am

The Denver Drill is based on an actual case in Denver Col. which the a FF died due to the challenges faced by the close walls and lack of space to remove him in time . The FF died in place due to smoke inhalation.

Fire Dept's are very good at locating and removing civilians from fire but have discovered that rescuing FF's is more difficult.
This case prompted many in the fire service to a take a good look at how we need to practice and learn how to safe our own.

Comment by Jimmy Lin on April 8, 2009 at 10:32am

Denver Drill?"Denver" is a city,and how can you save that man without a ladder or a rope?