its arbitrary... and actually quite assinine Considering Goggles are Moot when your Wearing your SCBA facepiece Like NFPA says, its the sam houston thats higher Profile after all everything has to eb bigger in texas ,, and Clear "Laquer" finish might burn off faster (IMAGINE that.... LMAO ) and Plain Paint is fire resistive... Thats right up there with Lets force Firefighters to wear NOrmex , because even though IT melts at a lower temperature, it will after all stop after you remove the open flame, while Cotton Duck wouldnt burn for another 50 degrees Higher , But would smolder unless you extinguished it with agent... IT was all a SCAM penitration was the test Cairns invented to get OUT of the Leather helmet biz all the labor intensive hand work, while MSA stamped out 12 -15 dollar TOPGuards 2000 an hour.... Course MSA go the last laugh now they own Cairns , Cairns is in The Bahamas and dont care...prolly laugh....
Your 100% correct its all a scam we just implemented at my work wearing NFPA 1971 duty uniforms well I hate to say it but if i am in a fire hot enough to burn through my bunkers i find it hard to beleive a tee shirt and pants that are NFPA approved are going to make any real differance.
New to the group...but here it goes, hope youre still around. The Sam Houston (N6A) seems to have a higher brim on it (top of the helmet). Not sure if it does or not...I've not measured them. The N5A (New Yorker) at one time was the only one compliant with our almighty NFPA standards and the N6A was only OSHA compliant. Besides some small details they are pretty much the same helmet. the N6A has an extra layer of Kevlar for penetration protection that the N5A's don't have. I think now it has flip flopped and the N5A's are no longer compliant by the almighty NFPA standards but the N6A's are (N5A's are still OSHA compliant). So which ever one you go with, you should be fine. If somebody gives you lip about your N5A not being NFPA compliant: remind them that NFPA is merely a recommendation for a law and OSHA and ANSI are actual laws. NFPA can recommend whatever they want, that you can't have Bourke eye shields unless they meet NFPA standards, or an N5A helmet or...blah blah blah. If you meet OSHA and ANSI laws, youre good to go and the good ole NFPA can pack sand up their ass ;)
unfortunantly Paul there is one flaw in your reasoning about NFPA. If something were to happen what standards and guidelines do you think OSHA or ANSI look at? When OSHA or ANSI do an investigation they look at industry guidelines and thats NFPA so whether or not its NFPA approved is still something to factor in. If you state or department has adopted NFPA equiptment guidelines as standard its a moot point. If your state has addopted them you have even less options.