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If your standing on the edge, your in my way!
Don't be a watcher, get involved. That means you have to pick up a rope, tie those knots, and build a system or two every week until it becomes natural to you. Other wise your one of the 80 percenters who stand around, playing at tying your part of the system, and eventually pass your part to someone else. This is a business of leaders and go getters, that are self motivated. Ask someone to pull a hose, throw water, or climb a ladder, and there off to the races like Dale Earnhardt (3). But ask them to tie a bowline, and they say " I 've heard of that". Don't just stand on the edge, and be in the way, do your part. How do we get these same motivated folks to grasp the fact that tying the right knot at the right time is just as nessessary and important as getting the wet stuff on the hot stuff?
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Permalink Reply by Dave Reed on
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Keep spreading the good word and make it your greed. Everyone has a talent and there is a job for everyone large or small its all apart of the operation.
Remember those who can do and those who can't will follow good leaders. -
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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If I'm standing on the edge, I'm probably assigned to work there to assist other rescuers in transitioning the edge. You'll be able to recognize me by the Class II or Class III harness and the self-adjustable fall arrest system to which I'm tethered.
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Permalink Reply by Wayne on
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Yes you have some good points. I see our tech guys stumbling on simple stuff only after a few weeks. You need the constant practice to do it right.
In my opinion most volly departments don't do enough practice on rope skills. Everyone is usually only covering the basics or essentials to be NFPA. As far as I am concerned it is a skill that is needs to be given priority. Sooner or later you will need it. In may case our area has no calls for any rope rescues ever(so far) and therefore it's a hard sell.
BTW the bowline really not used in rope rescue(and for a good reason). I hope IFSTA reevaluates and updates the knot requirements in my opinion(maybe 4th ed. already has changes). -
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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In my opinion most volly departments don't do enough practice on rope skills. Everyone is usually only covering the basics or essentials to be NFPA. As far as I am concerned it is a skill that is needs to be given priority. Sooner or later you will need it. In may case our area has no calls for any rope rescues ever(so far) and therefore it's a hard sell.
Wayne, I'd suggest that many career departments don't do enough practice either- it's not just a volly thing.
Someone once described the fire departmetns to me as "plate spinners"- we do a bit of fire, a bit of hazmat, a bit of confined space, a bit of trench rescue, a bit of EMS, a bit of high angle rescue and on and on it goes. In other words, plate spinners.
We spend so much time and effort jumping from one plate to the other, keeping those plates spinning, but don't spend enough time on a particular subject (perhaps with the exception of fire fighting) to get it 110% correct and be great at doing it.
This is a big issue, particularly with the skills required to undertake rope rescue- if we're going to do it, we need to spend more time (much, much more time) preparing for it, training for it and so on...
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Permalink Reply by Jim on
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Good analogy. How have you been? Are you still planning to be in the states when I do the Farmedic Program? Jim
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Good comments. I agree with you. What is it like though where you are located that you would not ever get a rope rescue? Bowline is good for two things that I can think of. One to haul a ladder. Two for a one handed rescue harness when your on a ledge and holding on with the other. LOL Jim
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