This past weekend my department responded to a single vehicle rollover on a rural (no curbs, soft shoulder) road.  The older model SUV landed on its roof in a ditch with severe damage. First arriving unit reported 6 patients with limited patient contact and the need for extrication. In the end, the call required (or used) 8 ambulances, 3 engines, several auxiliary vehicles (command vehicles, etc), 5 helicopters (we have three hospitals in the area, but our nearest trauma 1 center is 15min by air, or 45-60min by ground; due in part to mountains), and several law enforcement vehicles.  All 6 patients presented with critical criteria, and extrication required 62 minutes from first unit on scene to last patient in ambulance (to be fair I haven't reviewed the documentation, this is simply what I was told).

 

It was certainly a hectic scene, but all in all I think it was well run.  We had a total of seven agencies involved.  This was the result of the number of patients.  Based on the time of day, and other calls, we used four local ambulances, two [local university rescue squad] ambulances (they have their own squad that covers the campus), an ambulance from an adjacent department, and one private transport company ambulance. Adding in the three helicopter companies, and you can see how the agency count was driven up.  In the end, the point I wanted to make is that I found implementing ICS damned difficult for such a big-little incident.  By that I mean, we really only had a single vehicle accident. I'm curious if any of you have experienced this, or quite frankly, have even thought about trying to implement ICS (NIMS if you like) on an incident spanning about 20 ft by 30 ft?  I'm just curious as to your thoughts, and I'm interested in similar experiences.

 

-Andrew

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Have had similar experiences with ICS on scenes. Unfortunately it is the best that there is...
I wish I could say more on this topic, but the only time I have seen a large ICS/NIMS on scene was for a large wildfire that involved 10 different fire departments and multiple other resources.
After some time, I am now thinking this issue may be more pervasive as an issue of management than specific to the incident. I am wondering if this wouldn't be a good place for research. Potentially there is a better framework for complicated small scenes than the traditional ICS. Nonetheless I appreciate the replies. I haven't been doing this for a long time, but it was the first such incident I had been a part of, and I have to assume it's rather unique. So I was just hoping one of you might have had something similar in your past.

I have been told one of the agencies is doing a case study on the incident. I'm not sure exactly what they will be looking at, as they are the local hospital/medivac company. Some of their personnel (flight nurses and medics) were driven to the scene during extrication, but they arrived towards the end as patients were being readied for transport. Maybe they will just cover logistics of multiple helicopters landing in a makeshift LZ. I guess I will just have to wait and see.

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