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Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on October 27, 2014 at 1:42am

National  Fire Service  UK and  West Yorkshire fire services,   and here  Connecticut Firefighters (1992), Chelsea Ma FF, New London CT  FF  P&D,.    Newark NJ to name a couple Bands  who wear or wore  Ramsey  (2 styles) 

Like The Cunningham, Ramsey is based upon  the    MacGregor Family Tartan (ancient)

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on October 27, 2014 at 1:47am

after  9-11-01  2  Firefighter  kilts  were  designed one Is the  "FIREFIGHTER"  and  was intended to sell and donate some Profit to  the National  Fallen Fiirefighter  Memorial in Emmittsburg the  designer  was a Lady from Northern New England.... and  is designed  for  general  use of any and  all  firefighters 

Permalink Reply by SMOKEnPipesJim on October 27, 2014 at 1:53am

The  Other   is called  The Firefighter  Memorial  Kilt  as  was designed  by a well known  Modern American  Kiltmaker (USA Kilts) who supposedly was  using some  proceeds to go to  9/11 victims .....  I dont  know..  I believe  Sacremento  California Is wearing ONE of the 2  and  a couple   of the  Newer  Pacific Northwest Bands went  that  route... these  4  general  styles  are  Used But  Public domain  if you will  while the  registered  ones are  "copywritten"

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