This is a no brainer question. Would a firefighter be effective putting out a fire without gear and water. How can you be a first Responder in the position to help and not have this training. You will be doing nothing except hindering the outcome. I have been in the fire service for 23 yrs and certified as a EMT Intermediate since and have lost track how many times I have done CPR with numerous successful outcomes and only due to training..
Is "Hell" Yes an option?
Here in ohio at least in my level I class we were required to learn CPR. Not sure if that is a state standard or not, but as far as I am concerned it should be mandatory.
Basic firefighting skills must include the basic ability to save lives. The public can do CPR, anyone working in the profession, career or volunteer, has to be able to do those skills that the average person can do. It would look pretty sorry to the public to have civilians doing CPR while a uniformed firefighter stands by because he can't perform this basic technique.
I think that First Responder course should be mandatory for all Firefighter 1. Sometimes you are first on scene and the knowledge that you gain from this class may be the difference between a life saved and a life lost.
I guess I thought it was mandatory everywhere, I know in Iowa we have to complete CPR and AED training as part of the FFI certification, and we redo it every two years.
It think it all depends on what the state/district require for FFI certification.
Not every firefighter, (at least in New York state) takes Firefighter I. Many volunteer or combination departments set Scene Support Operations (SSO) as a minimum requirement for membership. Perhaps CPR for the Professional Rescuer should be mandatory at this level which would cover everyone on the fire ground, not just interior firefighters.
If you are going to respond to a scene then you should know what to do. Our support has taken the first responder course so that should they have to go to a scene for whatever role they know what to do. Right now this is being done on a voluntary basis. I think no matter what role you play with the fire department you should know how to give basic first aid/cpr.
In Arizona where I'm from, in order to even start the fire academy, you must be either in the process of completing an approved EMT program or already a certified EMT or Paramedic. Part of the reason is due to the strenuous nature of the training and not everyone is physically prepared regardless of passing the CPAT or comparible, so the academies want everyone prepared in the unfortunate event someone goes down. Secondly, the majority of the departments within AZ are the primary response to both fire and medical aid calls. Finally, as budgets are crunched and federal funding is harder to account for, more and more departments are becoming ALS responders to justify and maintain current funding levels. Each state I imagine is different.
Good point. it would make sense to have it at all levels.
In Arizona FF are require to be an EMT or higher even the volinteers.
Our EMT course includes CPR..