Hey,
I was wounering what your department (exspeshly volunteer) regulation's on pov response.
Ex. Yes-no, running red lights (safly), speeding, stop signs, going stright to the scene, ect...
One other question. If your not allowed to run lights and/or siren are you alowed to do any of the above.
We are allowed to run POV to some calls... any mutual aid calls only chief officers can go POV and we are allowed to have lights but only chiefs can have sirens and we are allowed 5mph over the speed limit
Our department allows only Chiefs and Captains to run lights. (with siren per RI law)
Traffic violations caused by a member while responding to a call are not exempt from the law. Anyone caught driving like a moron gets a special meeting. Jr's respond to the station and catch a truck. No truck, no respose.
Not obeying the law and killing someone will stay with you for life. Getting to the scene a minute sooner than you would by driving like a normal human will only be remembered by you for a day. Do the math.
Permalink Reply by FETC on December 29, 2008 at 9:49pm
Austin,
First thing to realize is this is not your emergency. Once you have accepted the fact that people will always think it took us too long to get to their worst day, keep this in mind...
Arriving to the scene a few seconds sooner will never EVER be noticed but... if you never arrive and take the life or lives of someone, sure bet YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
We aren't allowed to run lights/siren in our POVs...I don't think any firefighter paid or volunteer in Alabama can have them in their POV, it was legal to run them at one time. But now I think you have to have the written consent of the sheriff/police chief (whoever's jurisdiction your in) and you can only operate them in that jurisdiction. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I can't find an article regarding the issue.
As to traffic laws:
From what I remember when we had our EVOC, in your POV as well as in a truck you have the right to run any stop sign, exceed the speed limit or run a traffic light in the State of Alabama, but if anything happens when your doing it it's entirely your fault, and you are liable because you F'd up and didn't show the proper judgment. An example would be say you ran a stop sign and we're hit by a car...it's your fault for not waiting the car to pass and the way to be clear. You can't demand Right of Way in an emergency vehicle, you can only ask for it.
As to responding in our POVs:
Our insurance and SOGs mandates that you have to be 21 to drive the trucks en-route to an emergency. I live about 4 miles from the station, so all I can do is respond in my POV because usually by the time I get to the station the trucks have already left (my uncle and I live the farthest out from the station, everyone else is within a 1/4th of a mile of it) so we go straight to the scene usually.
In North Carolina you can display a red light (law states red and not any other color) however all traffic laws must be obayed. Juniors cannot use lights until 18. Chief officers can use a siren. Drive safley! It'll still be burnin when you get there.
Permalink Reply by mike on December 30, 2008 at 4:15am
in kentucky you can use red and white lights and you have to have a siren. you must obey all traffic laws. and you are only allowed to go 15 mph over the speed limit when running code three. and in my department you are allowed to go to the scene if the call is between you or your residence and the fire house.
Our rule is yes you can run POV with blue lights to the scene as long as you don't have to pass the station to get to the scene. If you have to pass the station you go there and either stand by or take another truck if needed. No matter what we have to obey all traffic laws and speed limits.
In West Virginia, we are promitted to speed, run lights (red/white) and sirens, run stop signs, traffic lights etc. If you live close to the scene you can just run POV.
We run red lights and sirens on pov if u run one you better have the other. We do run red lights saely come to a dead stop first same for stop signs 10m.p.h. over on back 15 on main roads. Do not pass the scene on the way to the station
I really hope that you use common sense when speeding, and running stop signs and traffic lights. That's just plain asking for trouble. Who does the family of a civilian that was struck and killed by a firefighter responding to the scene go after. You, the dept., or the state?