Is anyone using these?  PER's or Bailout kits.... Just curious what all is needed for a good system.  I am looking at getting these for our department.  What are the best kind of Caribineers, rope size, ect...  Thanks

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I use 50' of 8mm Sterling rope two Omega Jake caribiners an Escape Artist descender and a Yates ladder/escape belt.You can find this at www.thefirestore.com Hope this helps stay safe.
Just for discussion's sake, when do you guys state that bailout gear is necessary? (My jurisdiction has mostly 1-2 story homes, and very few commercial buildings over 2 stories. I don't see us getting bailout systems any time soon, nor do i think it is warranted for us; There are more important things to buy when the budgeting goes around...) But for those of you with more "vertical" demographics: Do you carry these into all structure fires? and are all FF equipped with them? Or is it more like an attachment for your SCBAs?
CMC escape anchor hook, 40' 8mm personal escape line, CMC: Rescue Escape Artist Descender, 2 carabiners: one is attached to system the other is in my pocket if needed, I use a gut belt to lock into.


I used this youtube video it was very helpful for me as well as the other videos that this gentleman submitted.
I have been looking at the firestore.com, I have been looking at a few different set ups. That is one thing we don't want to get into is certifying the ropes and people for it. We do want some training but want to be able to use it as a personal utility rope as well. I am looking for a simple system to tie off of the main search line and go from there. Thanks for the input everyone. Those systems look pretty fancy for what we are looking for. I don't see our Chief buying off on the personal harnesses or belts for everyone... but he is open to "personal ropes", just not into calling them escape systems I suppose.
OK, Chief... why 59feet? Did someone want one under 60', or did a woman measure it for 75? (They are always told... "no this is 9 inches")


Tyler, I understand what you want. Bail Out / Tagline Kit that does not take up much room! Ours is 1/2 the size of a normal 35' or 50' 8mm Rope Bag. Available in 25', 35' and 50' sizes, Includes Nomex Bag. Kevlar 8mm webbing - 5000 lb rating. Attaches to your SCBA / Belt or sits in your bellows pocket. Used for personal escape (slide) to "Bail Out" or can be used as a Personal Search Line. Primary Search Line or Secondary Line off the main line. NFPA Omega Locking Carabineer included.

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I carry, clipped to my SCBA, a bag with 50ft of RIT 500 pre-rigged to an F4 descender. For anchoring it, I have it tied to a 'biner, so I would need to use a tool or find something substantial to anchor it too. I'm looking at the hooks, but haven't made up my mind.

I anchor it, hook the F4 to the built in harness in my turnout pants, and then am ready to bail. We have an increasing number of 3+ story homes being built on hillsides, 2 story in front, some as tall as 5 story in the back.

Good topic, good ideas. Thanks for posting!

Ken
I'm on a truck Co. and we use Colorado belts. I put together a bag with 80' of 9mm with 2 caribiners and descender (a baby 8 plate). connect it to the belt and your good to go. Make your own kit. We saved allot money. I think each kit we made was about $60,00 to $75.00. We practice with it and try different things about once a month. In my opinion 50' is to short.
I have been wondering about the length... Thanks for the info!

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