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Permalink Reply by EngineLadder on July 14, 2009 at 2:32pm

we do a 5 side and a 3 side in the city pipe man pulls officer flaks out the line you related to the city brinkleys

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Brinkley on July 14, 2009 at 2:51pm

What is a 5 side / 3 side?
does this refer to total legnth?
Does the pipe-FF grab the same regardless?
If the officer runs up/in or a 360 to check out the job does anyone else help clear kinks and the such?

Yes i have 2 cousins and an X in the city

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Permalink Reply by EngineLadder on July 15, 2009 at 12:00pm

3 side = 150 Good for rows house usually have enuff line
5 side = 250 Good for long streachs ie taking the rear and going down an ally
The way my capt and I work is I usually make the choice while he makes a size up

Kinda hard to do a 360 on a row house but if I grab the line and he flaks it out for me and there is any left then the PO helps out the thing is that we got companys on our ass so some one will make a report from the rear and the chief is usualy there realy fast too.

And about kinks every one helps out with those

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Permalink Reply by Reg Mathis on July 15, 2009 at 2:20pm

Pretty easy for us. 300'(6 sticks) in both crosslays and 100' on the booster reel.

TCSS

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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on July 15, 2009 at 2:38pm

We use the triple-layer load for our crosslay 1.5 inch lines, our rear 2.5 inch preconnect, and our rear 2.5 inch leader line that are standardized on all engines. They're designed for the nozzleman to be able to deploy the entire 200-foot line in approximately a 68-foot pull from the engine.

The only line we have that's not triple-layer is the front bumper (trash) line. It is 100 feet of 1.75 inch in a horseshoe load. It's a grab-and-go for the nozzleman.

It's simple for us - the loads are mandated by the Operations Deputy Chief and every chief officer and company officer is expected to enforce it.

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Permalink Reply by CHRIS PUYLARA on July 16, 2009 at 12:57pm

WE USE A TRIPLE LAY ON OUR 1.75 CROSSLAYS--PRETTY EASY TO PULL OFF,DONT END UP WITH SPAGETTI NEXT TO THE TRUCK...LOL. OUR 2.5 BLITZ LINE THAT ARE MOUNTED IN THE REAR ARE A SINGLE LAY. WE HAVE 2 TRUCKS THAT HAVE FRONT BUMPER TRASH LINES- SINGLE LAYS OF 150'- ITS A GRAB AND GO OR WE CAN PULL OFF JUST WHAT WE NEED-SOMETIMES WE ONLY NEED 50'

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Permalink Reply by FETC on July 16, 2009 at 2:53pm

Daniel,

I am with Ben, our loads are set via orders from the Operations Deputy. We too use the triple load and the nozzle man stretches his own line all by himself. 33' stretch for 100', 50' stretch for 150' and 66' stretch for the 200" preconnect.

With your question, you must be packing your loads flat and looking for markers or loops for the backup man and/or the officer to pull the remainig load for the nozzle guy? Good luck as the flat load is horrible to begin with and you will never get four shifts to pack the loops the same way. I suggest the triple load or minuteman.

Bottom line is the triple load is a flat load in whch the nozzle man takes the nozzle and goes to the fire, the difference is it is packed in a Z, and the triple load deploys in just ONE THIRD the distance of a regular flat load.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Brinkley on July 16, 2009 at 10:38pm

Thanks,
Yes we're basically a flat load dept. We have a lot of freedom as far as lengths and exactly how things are packed so no 2 engines are the same. Of course when you go with a different type of engine every other time a spec goes out that doesn't help either.
I actually like the minute man but with 4 shifts of people with details and callbacks it just seems like the nozzleman's on such an adrenyline high he cant remember how the hose was packed when he pulled it off.
Oh well we'll see

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