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Interior Attacks or Not?
Does your volunteer dept do interior attacks on fire runs? Some volunteer departments do not do interior attacks. Does your department? Our department always look at safety first however if your department feels that they can safely go in do they? Some volunteer departments feel led to do only exterior attacks. What does your department do?
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Permalink Reply by DWAYNE BURTON on
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why don't you try to answer a comment without starting off with someone elses comment
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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Now there is a truly profound thought!
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Permalink Reply by Nathan Whoric on
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we attach when first on scene unless it is already to dangerous. we always make are best attempt to save the structure but we also like to keep everyone safe
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I am on a department that does interior attacks. The department I am on is all volunteer but about 85% of the department is trained in almost everything. With that 85% being said, we all took classes and certified in Fire I/II and I would said that in our area, not just our department, in about 30 mile radius, we are all fairly aggressive in interior attacks. We train with paid departments and we learn when to attack and when the crap hits the fan, pull out. But, however, not in every situation, anyone who is trained or isn't, is able to tell the warning signs, it just happens. Many of you, who made the comments in this post, made very good points. Some one pointed out that back in the day, they used to just point the water in from the outside. Things are very different, construction is different, and designs are different. It is all depends which department is wanting to do their actions as far as interior, exterior, defensive. I think it should be based on the response time, length of burn, the size up, and how severe it is. We all do watch each other backs and make every effort to keep everyone safe. just my 2 cents.
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Permalink Reply by Dewayne and Diana Bean on
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A lot of different and very interesting points have been made, everyone has such different prospectives. You have to respect each individual dept points
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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Perhaps he was making sure that you knew it was your comment that he was answering? After all, you hadn't really read his previous comment, which you were answering...
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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Perhaps he was making sure that you knew it was your comment that he was answering?
Yeah! What he said...!
ooops I did it again....
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why don't you try to answer a comment without starting off with someone elses comment
Given the lack of "quote" functions in these forums, this is an easy way to highlight what comment I'm referring and responding to.
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You have to beat most of our guys with a stick to keep them out of a house.
When I size up a house and decide I wouldn’t go in there when it’s not on fire
I’m sure as hell not sending any one in when it is on fire.
Case by case house by house.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Stewart on
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In December last year my brigade was paged to a shed fire of which made it difficult to access for internal attack due to the shed being automatic so once the circuit breaker flipped there wasnt any power fortunately there was a rear door unlocked so the CABA crew were able to conduct internal attack
However due to the intensity of the flames they were forced to do internal attack standing outside the back of the shed plus taking into account the fire already having gotten into the roof prior to our arrival also made it too risky for a full on assualt due to likelyhood of the roof either collapsing or being blown off
In the end with assistance from a neighbouring brigade we managed to stop the fire from making the roof cave in or being blown off due to there being a full on external attack within the first few minutes of our arrival which cooled down the roof
It all comes down to the size of your structual fire so a mix of both external and internal attack does wonders cause external attack will allow CABA crews a window of opportunity to initate internal fire suppression... but it also comes down to the type of appliance on scene and if the crew can rely on appliance water supply for the first 5-15 minutes before a hydrant and hoses is established to provide assistance
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Permalink Reply by Cody Scott on
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Depends on each call for us. I've personally made entry and attacked the fire directly 3 times with my department. and We've also been on calls where the attempt to go interior is to risky. All depends on firefighter safety. My departments try's to go interior on any call where the structure is not fully involved. If the interior attack is unsuccessful then we pull out and go indirect/defensive attack. A great tool for interior attacks is to use Positive Pressure Attack. Which uses Positive Pressure Ventilation and Interior Attack team that the same time. That has helped us on many fires.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Tenhagen on
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Our Vol. does do inside attacks but it does matter how much of the house is burning. If more than 50% we may not go in. But will try to go in and fight the fire. Another good thing to try is to hit the fire with deck gun for a good knock back to make it safer for entry.
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