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Help with an officer appointment/selection process
Fellow FFN Brothers and Sisters,
My Department has just recently come out of the dark ages and decided that the practice of the membership electing its officers is not such a good thing. I've been tasked by Chief to formulate an SOP on the appointment/selection of our officers. I use the slash because Chief doesn't want to do straight out appointments. He wants it to be a selection process.
Ideas I've kicked around include testing, certification numbers, an interview process with both the Chief, and a neighboring Chief (unbiased?). With some type of a weight system combining those factors; Ie. Interview is worth 25% of your tally, certs are worth 25%, etc..
It boils down to my Chief not wanting to appoint. He wants a process that will eliminate the good ol boy network. Anyone have something along these lines they'd like to share?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Lt. Paul Harris
My Department has just recently come out of the dark ages and decided that the practice of the membership electing its officers is not such a good thing. I've been tasked by Chief to formulate an SOP on the appointment/selection of our officers. I use the slash because Chief doesn't want to do straight out appointments. He wants it to be a selection process.
Ideas I've kicked around include testing, certification numbers, an interview process with both the Chief, and a neighboring Chief (unbiased?). With some type of a weight system combining those factors; Ie. Interview is worth 25% of your tally, certs are worth 25%, etc..
It boils down to my Chief not wanting to appoint. He wants a process that will eliminate the good ol boy network. Anyone have something along these lines they'd like to share?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Lt. Paul Harris
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Permalink Reply by Mike Ishler on
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Tiger,
In the matrix, could you explain the difference between requisite & pre-requisite? I know the dictionary definitions, but don't quite understand their application in the matrix. Does the pre need to be accomplished prior to taking the position and requisite need to be earned during one's tenure?
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Permalink Reply by lannk on
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The standard is nfpa 1021. I only know that because I went to look at 102 and it was for folding tents and grandstands. Thought you were making a joke at first. lol
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I agree entirely with no elections for the officer. Testing and certs, training hours, and ability to lead are the most important. You do have some good ideas on the selection process. Idetify the position(s) available well in advance and establish min quals for testing, this will give everyone that is qualified a fair chance. Selection can then be made by the highest score, definetely have a neighboring chief to administor the exam. Your chief and assistat could develope a local exam and answer key to be available for scoring. Be sure to include hands-on applications as well.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Mollet on
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I have been involved in many promotional processes. In my POC department we had the "Good ol boy" atmosphere-it was very damaging. It did nothing for the morale and there was allot of animosity toward the candidates that were promoted. In my current department (Full/Paid) we used to use the written test and an oral interview. Several years ago we changed to a assessment based test. I think this by far is the best way to promote, it is the closest to real life scenarios you can get. It allows you to test each candidates knowledge, skills and abilities (KSA's), it gives you a chance to see how they react to scenarios in real life/time-puts them in the "Hot Seat." Our process involves: Fire Problem; In-Basket; Citizen Complaint and an Employee Problem, seniority, officer evaluations, and a career development portfolio (The portfolio is made up of your training/qualifications-degree(s), certification(s), etc.) I think the written test doesn't test a person(s) KSA's it essentially boils down to whoever memorizes the material the best at test time. As far as including ANY outside entity no matter there title or position in the community to assist with promotions is not the answer either-oftentimes they really don't know how we operate. Just my thoughts on the subject. Take care and stay safe! REMEMBER: If you love life; love safety!
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Permalink Reply by Padre Pete on
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Back at you Paulie, One of the great advantages of our volunteer system is, if you are being shafted by management, you have an opportunity every election time to vote to change it. I dont get the part about why you are so driven to disenfranch the voters. What harm can there be if the one by whom we want to be lead is the most popular one from a list of qualified nominees.? Voting and empowerment are essential to effective membership. That kind of input should a volunteers enalianable right. Isn't it a terrible loss of incentive and motivation to serve a leader chosen without any input from his subordinates? When you say "There has to be a way to come up with this decision that takes out any chance someone does not have the best intrest of his dept. when making it." There is not. That would require a world of identical zombies armed with rule books and void of any social skills or ability to interact in the interest of real personal relationships. I offer no hope that such a shangrila may ever exist. Personal relationships are what we are and must continue to be. The other side of the coin will always be with us. Thank God.
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Opps. That would be "disenfranchise" as to deprive the rights of citizenship.
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Permalink Reply by Tiger Schmittendorf on
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You are correct Mike -
The standard definitions apply:
Pre-requisites must be met before they are eligible to run for that office.
Requisites must be completed while holding that office and before advancing to the next office. Typically applied where you must hold an office for more than one year.
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Permalink Reply by Erick Wendler on
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in our department the ones elected have to go threw a written test if the pass the written then they go threw a interveiw with the chief, assistant chief, deputy chief, and two chiefs from our mutial aid districts
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