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Five Minutes in the Street: Mutual Aid for a Reported Kitchen Fire
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The engine company officer indicates she is leading off with a 1-3/4 inch attack line. She has a three (3) staffed attack team heading into the first floor. The pump operator (engineer/chauffer) is at the pump panel. They picked up a hydrant on the way in.
You arrive as the: Incident Commander, Second-due Engine or first-due truck company.
Select one of the positions and provide your reply -based on your assignment and position;
Based upon your selected assignment:
Provide a radio description of what you see by adding to the initial transmission of the 1st due Engine, or provide a more detailed risk profile as the incident commander.
What’s the building and structure’s risk profile, how do you think fire will behave, travel affect the structure?
Is there anything unique about this structure? Its occupancy, size, features, fire location, risk to firefighters etc?
What are your projected resource needs in terms of manpower and equipment? What do you expect to have responding to this alarm?
As the mutual aid resource, is there anything special that you need to know, consider or take into consideration at this alarm?
What special hazards are present in this type of building and occupancy?
What’s your size-up and risk profile telling you so far?
OK, we’re “burning” up too much time here…., let’s get to work on this job…
BTW; It's a Saturday afternoon.
The engine company officer indicates she is leading off with a 1-3/4 inch attack line. She has a three (3) staffed attack team heading into the first floor. The pump operator (engineer/chauffer) is at the pump panel. They picked up a hydrant on the way in.
You arrive as the: Incident Commander, Second-due Engine or first-due truck company.
Select one of the positions and provide your reply -based on your assignment and position;
Based upon your selected assignment:
Provide a radio description of what you see by adding to the initial transmission of the 1st due Engine, or provide a more detailed risk profile as the incident commander.
What’s the building and structure’s risk profile, how do you think fire will behave, travel affect the structure?
Is there anything unique about this structure? Its occupancy, size, features, fire location, risk to firefighters etc?
What are your projected resource needs in terms of manpower and equipment? What do you expect to have responding to this alarm?
As the mutual aid resource, is there anything special that you need to know, consider or take into consideration at this alarm?
What special hazards are present in this type of building and occupancy?
What’s your size-up and risk profile telling you so far?
OK, we’re “burning” up too much time here…., let’s get to work on this job…
BTW; It's a Saturday afternoon.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Second in companies being mutual aid... means a serious delay.
Definition of insanity - Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.
Do I have to pull up the link to NIST - Keouk, Iowa. (lousy kitchen stovetop fire) with 3-LODD's
Godspeed Brothers.
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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If I remember correctly, the Iowa incident involved multiple civilians trapped, with rescues during the firefight, and no EMS quickly available. That led to the IC abandoning Command to transport a pediatric CPR to the hospital if I remember correctly.
The LODD's followed, due at least in part to the advanced fire condition and tight, cut-up construction.
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You're a scary, scary man with way too much time to spend on internet research. :-)
If I ever need an Intelligence Officer on scene, I'm calling for you.
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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on
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Google is my middle name!
It is good to have as much information about an incident when trying to do these size-ups.
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Got side C and D?
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The example has some erie resemblances. Delayed notification, this one has a fire well involved, probably flashed over already in the kitchen, it has self vented before arrival, Engine 1's lack of manpower, and decides to go offensive... The report from NIST clearly shows flashover occurs on the entire first floor in Keouk within 10 minutes. Again, we must understand our capabilities with the limited resources we have on arrival. That is my point about insanity. A single company of 4 is nice, nicer than many run but not enough to commit yourself too deep with a single small line, attempting a search to the fire or search and rescue operation like the case study. Who is going to vent the building to prevent the rest of the floor from flashing? Keouk pulled a dry line, abandonded it and decided to locate the kids (free search) instead of fire attack. Flashover got them pretty quick. What I am getting at is how long is the mutual aid out? This would be more of a learning sceanrio to debate what the first in, John Wanye time fellas would do to stay out of trouble.
But this new CO committed everybody but the pump operator to a pretty large, cut-up, open staircase residential with a quick rapidly growing fire on the notion of people possibly being in there because of a single car in the driveway. They better be pretty salty jakes or they are going to be pretty toasty before you the M/A saviors arrive to save them.
Fire alarm from E-1 newbie CO, Mayday, mayday , mayday.... let the next due know we are lost, trapped, fell, cooked and need assistance 5 minutes ago.
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