What are you kidding me? Get a grip dude. Job satisfaction is definitely higher on the fire/ems job.
Stop it. Just stop it. This is not a question of ego. Your statement makes no sense. You just said its hard to wake up...FROM SLEEPING. We all do it. Is it good for us? No. Does it mean we are more stressed...NO WAY. Someone has badge envy.
Well stated. We must remember that firemen get shot at too. Cops run into house fires with no gear. They do CPR; sometimes by themselves for up to five or ten minutes. Some of the EMS fatties I have seen can't do a full round without needing their own O2!
Most officers see someone die at least once a week or more. They ride the same calls we do and when we are 2-5, they go back on the road to deal with the worst people on the planet. They deal with mostly the negative and the aftermath of things. WE see positives all the time. CPR save, extrication save, deliveries, a good stop on a ripper, a baby or puppy or kitten saved, and other positives renew us all the time.
Well, it stirred things up thats for sure. However, I must point out that you are talking about physical stress. We, from what people have written, took the question to mean mental stress.
Nobody, I mean NOBODY, has the physical stress from heat, exertion, and exhaustion/exposure that FFs do. In that respect, WE ARE the most stressed job ON THE PLANET!
Again, although I participated in this thread...I think WE should be spending our time talking about how to prevent LODDs and keep our crews safe, not having the age old argument between police and fire.
BUT...FDNY, at least until next year, IS BETTER AT HOCKEY than NYPD! HA!
I think WE should be spending our time talking about how to prevent LODDs and keep our crews safe, not having the age old argument between police and fire.
Those discussions have taken place and do show up, but rarely do they get the same amount of traffic and thought and even debate, except when discussing standards or lack thereof.
Point is you can't expect a coffee table type of discussion to be on training, and the fire service all the time. There are times for other "old arguments" and differing opinions.
Just so you know, Art (the guy who started this thread) has written extensively here on FFN and other sites about LODD prevention and firefighter safety in general. There's room for a thread of this type - even if it does involve a certain degree of badge envy.
That soldier/Marine isn't carrying that amount continuously. One of our new hires is a former Army Ranger who served in Afghanistan and the question did come up about carrying gear. I can't speak for everyone though and like you, I was former Navy.
However, a point to be made is that FF ensamble and PPE also retains heat and prevents the body from cooling itself when wearing the gear. A soldiers gear still breathes and doesn't retain the heat like a FF's PPE does, meaning the body can still cool itself.
Now really this discussion isn't about the military, but the point was brought up, those who served would say the military has more stress than these two jobs. The military is stressful enough during peacetime, let alone during war.