It's been a long time, probably 9 months, since I've really looked through the posts here on FFN. I used to view and post, every day, or several times a week, on FFN. I gained A LOT of knowledge and guidance from members such as Captain busy, John Crabbe, Damn Thing, and many, many others (those are names that come to mind, off the top of my head). In that past year, I've taken on a new job, going from a full-time medic to another service as a full-time medic-supervisor, which has been a HUGE increase in workload itself. I've also taken on a second full-time job...Daddy. Needless to say, my daily time for online forums has dropped, significantly, recently.


I've started to settle into my new positions, and thought I might venture onto one of my old sites, to see what is happening, and what is new to learn, experience, share, etc. Now I have seen. I browsing through several pages, I have seen, what was bad then, is even worse now.


Whackers, whackers, whackers, whackers, whackers....W--H--A--C--K--E--R--S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously, you young, new, no-nothing, whack-tastick morons!!!!!!!!!!! Do you realize that you are in the presence of a large amount of experienced, knowledgable, ready-to-teach, firefighters, EMT's, medics, resuers??????????????


Do you seriously thing the best utilization of your time is to talk about your blue lights, what blue lights you want to aquire, what blue lights you are looking to buy, what tatoo you are getting, want to get, want to compare, what song you listen to on the way to a call, or WHAT F*&#ING WORD, REPLACED BY THE LAST WORD, COULD MATCH THE PREVOIUS STATED CAPTIONED PHRASE BETTER???????????????????????????????????????????????


Listen, listen....LISTEN, MORONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THIS IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS (volunteer or not, and although I didn't see it, I'm sure there are  100,000 posts on that, too, since I've been gone)






NOW, HERE THIS......................




BLUE LIGHTS, TATTOOS, AND WORD GAGMES dont' keep you safe in fires


BLUE LIGHTS, TATTOOS, AND WORD GAMES won't help you get your buddies, or civilians out of bad situations when they happen (and they WILL happen)


BLUE LIGHTS, TATTOOS, AND WORD GAMES won't advance your career, in any capacity


BLUE LIGHTS, TATTOOS, AND WORD GAMES wont' beneift you, in any way, or your community, in any way, in any emergency, on any day, in any town, in any state


Do you seriously think, in the presence of all of this experience surrounding you...that this CRAP that you post and participate in, is the best way to spend your time


You all (like I did) could learn, and take away so much, from this website, but instead you waste your time on frivilous BS


You cheat yourselves, and your community, by burying the knowledge shared here that's worth it's weight in gold, in the sludge that is your stupid fascinations and BS quirks


You are not real firefighters, you are whackers. I know you people. You are in my community. You show up late for class, if at all. You are out of shape, and can't do the job. You aren't certified in anything. You could care less about the people or property in your community. BUT.............


You have $17,000 in lights on your car, you have 32 FF tatoos, 15 t-shirts that state how much you fight what the others fear of racing the reaper while rushing in while the others whithout big hoses run out and being second due but always first in and last out, and whatever other false, copyright, crap you can fit on the XXXXXL cotton back you can print, your SSI check that funds the extra gadgets on your gear, which is so useful, while you breathe air on the front lawn waiting for another crew to actually do something about the situation your are watching unfold in front of you.


I cannot imagine that the limited time I have in my usual week would allow me to sift throught the current mountain of crap on this site, to find the rare gems of precious knowlevdge buried by the posts of people that wouldn't know a real job if it sat on their face.


Who knows what time will bring, I certainly don't. But for now, for those I mentioned early on in this post (and many, many, more, that I can't think of off the top of my head after almost a year), THANK YOU!!!!


I have, in the past few months, earned my ProBoard FF1, BVR-T, and am now working towards registering for my upgrade from NREMT-P to CC-EMT-P, and the year following FFII and my B.S. in Emergency Medicine. I know the knowledge I've gained from you here has given me inspiration, and further more, the practical, street knowledge to keep me and my fellow responders safe while serving the pulbic, and pursuing my goals in EMS and firefighting.


I am sorry for the dump that is this place, which I see many of you still toil through. If I had the time, I would probably try to toil with it, too, to gain the additional knowledge I know I could obtain...but I simply don't have the time, given what I've seen tonight, to wade throught the ocean of garbage, to find what I originally came for, and fell in love, with, in this site.


Yours in sincere professionalism and service,



Jon Rea

Hollidaysburg, PA

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Blair4630, let me be the first one to stand up and applaud you for saying something ALOT of use were thinking, but didn't want to be politically incorrect or step on any else's toes. And I do agree with you on everything you said, I originally found this site on an ad on facebook, and decided to join up cause it sold me on the idea of "meeting fellow emergency services personnel" and I thought "great, more people to talk to and learn about the fire service from" and day in and day out you see the same posts over and over again "What color helmets denotes what....yadda yadda yadda" or "What color fire trucks do u guys have?" and those young punks who just joined are at JUNIOR FIREFIGHTERS!!! "I want to get this this this and this for my vehicle, who can tell me where i can get it cheap?".....after reading this post, I too am wondering what has happened to this website?? I come on here to try and learn and expand my knowledge of the fire service, with hopes of one day becoming a full time paid firefighter....but all i get is "drop a word, add a word" or "caption this"..........hmmmmmmm.....just my opinion i guess....u don't have to like it or read it, just know that it's there....
Blair4630 I also agree with you 100%, I work hard, reading, training, studying and even watching fire and smoke movies to try and make myself a better Firefighter. I too was drawn to this site for the information I could possibly receive that might, one day save my F*****g life, or that of one of my fellow brothers or sisters, not to mention the public we are suppose to serve. Firefighting is a tough business, full time or Volunteer, and we need every resource we can find. I hope that some of these dumb arse posts start to fade away, with the dickheads that write them. Stay strong brother, and be safe......
Sounds like someone has forgotten what it's like to be young and uninformed.
Tolerance is a virtue.
You don't like the thread? Don't read it.
There, problem solved.
I agree but I have also seen these experienced people that have poured their knowledge into you also partake in these drop a word add a word threads because it's something to do.If however things got posted in proper areas then they most likely would not be used.That is the problem here not that the juniors are posting stupid syuff it's that they are posting in the wrong area and it is being seen.I agree that all the unwanted stuff is pushing the useable knowledge futher down the pages and it is a huge pain to find it but you can't be going off on "juniors" because they are just that and calling them morons I did not find appropriate or "PROFESSIONAL"Things plain and simply just have to get posted properly so that if you want to add your word then you have to go looking for the add a word area and if you want to learn then you go to the learning section!!!
Sounds like you have a head on your shoulders and have 110% put yourself into bettering but you were a junior and a rookie once before in your life and the thrill of turning on you blue,red green light was a rush because it's awesome but I don't agree with all the name calling.The problem will be solved if we can just get people to post correctly and if they don't possibly have it moved to the proper place.Cheif has tried wether indirectly or directly started a juniors group to hopefully get more of this stuff moved to a certain area but it didn't go away 100% but I think it helped a bit.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in.

Capt. With your permission I'd like to post a few of these at the Correctional Facility, (State Prison.) I think it may be a multi discipline tool to relieve stress.
I'm 12 years retired now and seen a lot of youngsters come and grow. While I can agree with some of your sentiments your reaction is, in my opinion, way over the top.
You need to understand that the way young people use the internet is a lot different to many of us "older" ones and what is going on here reflects that, be tolerant.
I think there is room for the social and professional aspects of what you want.

We've all been there brother...

There's no Copyright so have fun!

I am (1) year retired now and have worked with younger folks for my entire 38 year career. My own kids have taught me the most about how this site, FaceBook, MySpace, or Twitter work and the associated social graces that go along with them.

I find myself questioning the dominance of the social side of this site coupled with the needed marketing by the site owners. That does not leave much room for the site to follow what it preaches...

This site is intended for use by current and former fire, rescue & EMS professionals.

I can honestly say Andy, I have absolutely nothing to learn from the younger FFJR's. These kids, and I need to note that many do get the big picture, need to be quiet, learn and pay attention. Seriously, are you going to really listen to the rantings of a teenager pretending to be a firefighter, and with an opinion on top of it all? I think not. I just cannot be as you called for... that tolerant.

In fact, I have strongly gone on record here stating that unless you are over 18 years of age, you have no business being on the site because of the content and types of discussions that are not appropriate for children.

Unless we are "Dumbing Down the FFN"? Is that what you want? I sure hope not.

Hopefully, the new and improved FFN site will enable organization to meet the needs of both the social and professional aspects of the FFN... so we can do what we want... which in my case is to learn and share, not play games.
About the only comment that angers me is the one about size. Not all of us bigger guys are lazy do nothings who don't train and can't do the job. I know several bigger guys who can and do work rings around the skinny guys. I train with two different depts two days a week trying to get my 150 hr cert, got my EMT cert in June and currently seeking a paramedic class to get into, work 50+ hrs a week in EMS, and respond to as many calls as possible for my vollie fire dept on my days off. Try as I may I cannot lose the weight that I have put on when I left the fire service several years ago to go truck driving. But your comment about "and whatever other false, copyright, crap you can fit on the XXXXXL cotton back you can print, your SSI check that funds the extra gadgets on your gear, which is so useful, while you breathe air on the front lawn waiting for another crew to actually do something about the situation your are watching unfold in front of you" was most definitly uncalled for. I'm not now nor will I be in the near future on SSI or any other assistance as long as I can work. I know you're from Pennslyvania and I know an awfully lot of people from there who are first class jackasses and you sir are one of them. This board is actually better off without you.

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