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Cleveland High Rise Pack or Cleveland Lay
Just wanting to know how many departments use a a Cleveland high rise pack. for those of you who do not know of a Cleveland High Rise Pack or "Cleveland Lay" it is an easy way to deploy 100 feet of hose quickly and easily it can also be assembled easily or left at the station to grab when you need it or have it left on the truck to have for quick deployment. as far as the high rise application it fits perfectly over the top of your air pack to carry up stairs. it also will work great in a wild land fire situation. for our Rural Department we will be using it mainly for the local elementary school and a few other larger businesses and churches in our community. we are just now looking into this "new" (new to us lol) hose lay/high rise pack. just wondering if it would work for any other department or if you already use it.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Owens on
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My FD used to use it we called it the Metro Pack. We went away from it because we encountered some kinking issues on incidents. In my opinion it was a training issue. I loved it and wish we still had it.
We have switched now to what some call and FDNY pack wich is essentially brining the nozzle and female connection to the middle then folding them over again then securing them. This pack also works well and it does deploy better in the stair well than the other style.
I think it works well in a variety of applications it orginally came from forrestry firefighting. Hope this helps.
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Permalink Reply by paul michael komandt on
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We just started using this as our trash line. The ones that have worked with it love itand the ones that try to start pulling the uncharged line out or pull the nozzle under one of the loops don't like it simply because they dont want to say that they are the problem. Just make sure the nozzle is picked up but not advanced untill the line is charged.
We keep this in a crosslay compartment over the pump panel in a 100'ft bundle, and it is connected toa 50'ft section that is flatloaded. We dont have any high rise buildings or apartment complexesso we stated using this so we can get the trashline in the operators view to ensure nozzle control when charged.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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I use this load but we call it the bundle. We have alot of protected stairwells that I can charge my line in the protected stairwell landing, open the door and advance onto the fire floor. None of the traditional flake it out, charge the line, advance the line upstairs from the floor below. Alot less work, less kinks/turns.
We also stand the bundle up on end like a wagon wheel to clear the landing floor. No remaining charged hose lines in the actual stairwell for firefighters or civilians to trip over either...
What I have seen lately though, is many trying to pack the load smaller and smaller. Some are saying use a 4' pack but they say to wait for the POP effect before advancing the nozzle. The reason for this is the 1.75 hose cant be charged in such a small diameter without the POP. If you pack a bundle on a 6 or 6.6' pack, when you charge that larger diameter load, there is no need for a pop effect.
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