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Acceptance in the fire service
As someone new to this site, I am very curious to see how others feel about the issue of gays in the fire service. Without stating my own personal experiences, if an openly gay person were to be hired be your fire department, do you think that person (in the context of your station) would be accepted, or do you think a certain amount of predjudice and tension would exist, no matter the specifics?
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Permalink Reply by Mark Oomkes on
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Hey now, I happen to be proud to be a right wing wacko clinging to my religion and guns. ;)
So, having said that, I would have a problem with it personally. I would have to overcome that (I would hope and pray that I could) to work with a homosexual. I'm sure I have in the past, without knowing it. And as long as they aren't militant about it, I do my best to keep my religious beliefs to myself, as I don't think it proper to force my beliefs on others. I hope they can see by the way I speak, act and live who I am and what I believe and if they ask I will tell them, but I am not going to "flaunt" it, shall we say?
If they can do the job and not be flagrant, I don't care. Same goes for any "protected" group. Just do the job and we'll all be happy. And from that standpoint, I have been more pissed off at bunches of white guys because they won't work than I would ever be against someone "different".
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Permalink Reply by Patti Walz on
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Yeah.... Ignorance can sometimes be bliss, but most of the time people who are just need to get a grip.
I raised my daughter to know that 1) she can always talk to me and 2) I love her unconditionally. I wan't to make sure she had a better and happier life than I did. While some people think I spoiled her, I firmly believe I made sure she felt loved. That is why even today we have a strong connection and we can talk about anything. From sex to depression and everything in between.
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Don't you know that flamers can be a blast! hehehe
In all seriousness, so long as everyone is respectful of each other (and I know in a perfect world) then there should be no worries. A person may not like anotehr persons sexuality, but they should at least be respectful of that person. I know in a perfect world everyone would be happy happy.....
So long as it gets down to the nitty gritty and you can do your job without me having to babysit your a$$ I don't care what a person does with their life or who they see. Once you let that interfer with your job, then I am going to have a problem. (Yes I mean both my day job and my volunteer job)
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::cheers::Im not the kind of guy who makes exceptions for people who want things changed just to suit them.
I could not have said this better.
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Permalink Reply by Gary Stevenson on
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Simply answered... Brothers/Sisters don't hack brothers/sisters.
Like many have already written, if a person can do the job then who cares what color, religion, gender, or any other number of difference are?
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Permalink Reply by Fabulous Heather Days of Summer on
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I have noticed, in general, straight men are more uncomfortable, detached, even fearful towards gay men then they are towards gay women.
Additionally, many men even reflect as being aroused by hoping the gay woman is really bi-sexual and there can be lots of joking about turning a gay female straight if she just had the right man show her a thing or two.
While there can be joking about what women wronged a man to turn him gay.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Montpetit on
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Not from me....I am NOT predudiced....I hate everbody....!!!! LOL I don't give a rats butt...as long as you can do your job and of course take the usual inevitable ribbing of a "newbie" or a "probie"....
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Now if only the rest of the population would grasp this concept......
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Permalink Reply by Jack/dt on
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I'm curious as to what you mean by "flaunting" it.
Talking about their partner?
Talking about where they went on their days off?
Talking about dating?
Talking about sex?
You know, all the things straight guys do.
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Guess I meant being militant about it. The items you suggest Paul I would not consider flaunting it. Well, maybe the sex part as that isn't discussed in my department, but not the rest.
Just be normal like everyone else, other than the obvious. I won't shove my religion\politics\whatever down someone else's throat, so don't do it to me either. I will talk about it if asked, and I wouldn't have a problem with them talking about it, but as someone said, respect.
I'll respect your beliefs even though I might think them wrong as long as you respect my beliefs while you think I'm wrong.
I can have a civilized discussion with anybody that respects my beliefs as I respect theirs. Even to the point of having a spirited debate \argument and not changing anyone's mind or opinion as long as we have mutual respect.
Does that clear it up?
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Yes it does (assuming you were addressing my reply). I believe the operative term here is respect, and on that point I agree with you.
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Permalink Reply by Gregory Borg on
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Obviously it depends on who you talk to, as for me it does not matter, pass probation, work hard and you are in. Knowing your job is what matters, sexual orientation does not matter. In fact as far as I am concerned it is just not an issue.
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