It's with interest that I look through the many groups that have now been created on FFN and I notice that a few are by "Invitation Only".

Does this defeat the purpose of FFN being a social network?

Does this create an elitist type of mentality amongst some members who have been invited, versus others who haven't?

There's also some that you have to apply to join, but there's no information given about conditions or selection criteria required.

Should all groups be open to anyone who wishes to join them?

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Do Private Fire Departments defeat the social nature of the Fire Service?

Don't you have to apply to join your local fire department, either paid or volunteer, and then participate in and pass an interview or vetting process before being voted on, accepted or declined, and then sworn in?

Same difference.
Posted by Mary Ellen Shea, "Do Private Fire Departments defeat the social nature of the Fire Service?

Don't you have to apply to join your local fire department, either paid or volunteer, and then participate in and pass an interview or vetting process before being voted on, accepted or declined, and then sworn in?

Same difference.
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I'd actually say it's a very, very big difference.

One is purely social (FFN) the other is a combination of social, high pressure, team reliant, highly sensitive (Emotionally and from a security perspective) situations.

One needs a vetting process, the other doesn't.
It does not matter to me at all, if its private so be it, thats there thing:)

Just make your own group and open it to everyone:)
Well I am here to learn from everyones experiances and maybe make a comment or two that might help someone else. If there are groups or sections or blogs that are private, at least as far as I am concerned, it stops the freedom of learning.
I think in part that's my issue.

This is a site for social networking and learning from each other and even disagreeing with each other (and getting somehting out of that!) but how do you network and learn if groups are by invitation only?
then in a purely social environment, don't "cliques" exist? Is everyone in every social grouping invited to join in on every activity? Nope, don't think so.
If you don't like the "exclusionary" nature of some of the private groups then I echo T.J.'s comments and say start your own private group and invite or decline members as you see fit.
It's called freedom of choice.
Lutan, I agree... I've been trying to join "Women in Public Safety" for quite a while now, and they keep declining my request. I wonder what goes on behind those closed doors...
I'm not interested in starting a private group- it defeats the purpose of a social networking site like this and promotes the exact thing I'm questioning.

On the flip side, I have started a group- the Vehicle Extrication and Rescue group. Why not come on over and share information, stories, lessons learnt and so on? It's open to everyone on FFN.

It's at http://www.firefighternation.com/group/vehicleextrication if you're interested....
Joe, I heard from some of your department members that you drive like an old lady- surely that qualifies you???!!!
I would have thought so, but... apparently the gate-keepers of that group think otherwise.
funny.. I truly think it's ok.. Don't understand why when we are suppose to be a family why you would only have invite only.. I agree this is a forum with open topics. when youstart closing people out, start your own forum.. your own web site... But in the same insight what the heck hide behind the invite only sign..
FFN mirrors the fire service as a whole. Socialization and socializing are important, but just as different stations, shifts, or groups get together for things that are of specific interest to them, so do FFN members.

For example, the Chief Officer's group is by invite only, with documentation that you are a current or past chief officer. Sorry if you're not a chief, but I don't see the point of letting anyone with a computer and an ISP join that group and take up its bandwidth.

There are a lot of FFN members who have no demonstrable connection with fire and/or EMS. Some of them don't have an avatar remotely connected to the fire service, their profiles change on an daily (or sometimes hourly) basis, and I'm betting that they've never seen the inside of a burning building or an EMT classroom.

If the wannabes want to play in the public areas, that's fine with me. If they can't pony up with some basic qualifications to meet the intent of some of the specialized groups, then they probably don't belong there.

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