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What Have You Found to be Useful Tools on a Rural Main-line Pumper?
what tools would you suggest to help in rural fires besides the basics pike poles ladders gas powered fan hard suction ldh and air tanks and bottles and hoses and nozzles. is there anything else that anyone has found useful throught there years on departments?
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Permalink Reply by Andrew Dalgarno on
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Around here, I've seen too many instances where guys crank up the pump and hit a grass fire with high pressure, high GPM, straight stream. Then they wonder why all the sparks that they are blowing around are re-igniting in the surrounding grass.
I was helping a neighboring department with a field fire last month. The pumper was driving around a farm field (pump-and-roll), putting out the fire. They were so close to the fire break that they were blowing the fire across the break and it was starting to get away into the next field. We just caught it in time. They were using a straight stream from their truck-nozzle and although I don't know the pressure, the engine was sure rev'd up.
Andrew
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Permalink Reply by Loyd Dittfurth on
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well theres many different varables to look at on this
just curious by pumper you mean grass rig right?
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Well, we don't have rigs just for grass fires or anything. Most of the "pumpers" that we (and our Mutual Aid partners) have are mobile enough to take slightly off-road. No driving through the ditch or climbing steep off-road grades or anything like that, but there's no problem entering a farm field and chasing down the fire.
Really, there's not much difference when it comes to the weight on the ground between a fire truck (any variety) and a farmer's grain truck. Different cargo, but they are both (supposed to be) within the legal weight limits. And I know for a fact that most farmer's trucks aren't within the weights around here!
Andrew
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Permalink Reply by Shaun Hansen on
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I would say an In-line foam eductor and asperator. Other than the on board eductor. This is usefull when you need to throw a little ARFFF down when your tank on the on-board is full of Class A foam..Give you more than one option.. Then we also have a chimeny sweep strapped to ours. It is colder now and you might see a few chimeny fires. Just a good tool to have for the "what if's"... And possibly some sort of trash pump for when you need to set water supply from a near by stream or pond for the out of towners that happen.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Dudan on
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LIke mentioned a chimney box with a sweep
Brooms for MVA clean ups
salvage cover
utility rope
If grass fires/wildland is also a concern look into getting a few lightly used nomex shirts from the Forest Fire Service.Depending on SOPs/SOGs these can be a great opportunity to reduce FF fatigue from wearing full turnout gear
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Yeah, we use fire service cover-alls so that our guys (and gals) aren't overheated on grass/bush fires.
Hadn't thought of a chimney sweep...that's a good one. We have very cheap electricity, so most homes are using electric heat. I could probably count the number of homes that use wood-burning heat on one (maybe two) hands!
All of our pumpers carry their own portable pump in case, as Shaun said above, we need to supply water from a pond or dugout or swimming pool or ?????
Andrew
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Permalink Reply by Steven on
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Oh good, SOMEBODY mentioned lights....
We go on a lot of calls at night and when you're called to a big corn field and find a car in the ditch with bloody prints on the car's exterior but no victims/patients, yer gonna want some lights...
And a K9 unit, but that's what radios are for.
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Permalink Reply by james w. hunter on
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All of our trucks carry a couple of plastic coffee cans full of highway salt. The area around a pumper generally gets pretty icy. Just sprinkle the salt around and everyone is able to walk safely. Also, hand-held propane torches for soldering are on each truck. They come in handy for thawing frozen valves, caps, and other connections.
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Permalink Reply by Perry Bryant on
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A cooler-- no lie-- its a life saver-- we mount ours on the tailboard.
"Tailboard Tech 2"
Every kind of coupling for your first due and whoever runs mutual aid with you. Hard Sleeves for drafting. A chainsaw- a few of our pumpers carry em. SQUAD 2 has two Deck gun stands, just things that come in handy.
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floating strainers and hard sleeves for drafting
cant fight fire without a water supply
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Permalink Reply by Wade Seely on
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A jet syphon for your drop tanks, four wheel drive, and blitzfire ground monitors for when you need big water and are undermanned.
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