we have 2 ford 1-tons with 300 gall. skid units on them one of them has a foam unit. we also have 2 5 ton trucks that we take for extra water. right now we dont have any pumpers so if we have a house fire (only had 2 in 4 years) one of our neighboring towns will come out and help. as far as should every rural f.d. should have one that is yes you cant take an engin out in a pasture were it is real sandy or ruff.
Old military 2 ½, had one on a crane once, city had one to plow snow; we have a park, not that big maybe 2 acres, has a drive around the outside edge we call it the circle park because of the drive, that old 2 ½ won’t make the turns. They are indestructible and will go about anywhere, but if you don’t have say 2 football fields to turn, you’re screwed.
Permalink Reply by Cory on December 17, 2008 at 5:40am
If you are rural in a sence that you have fields, there is no reason for you not to have a brush truck! An engine should never be taken off road (a pumper), even though it does happen sometimes, and when it does, never in a field, getting it stuck will do you no good!
If you have the resources go for it and have at least one brush truck. The beauty of a brush truck is that with a little work you can build it in house. We have found that you should use a minimum of a 1-ton chassis but a heavier chassis is better. We have a Dodge 3500 V-10 with a 300 gallon poly tank and a F550 Powerstroke with a 500 gallon poly. Everyone prefers the F550 because you can fight a lot more fire with it and the diesel motor is perfect for crawling all over God's creation. The other thing to look at is if you are in really rough country a single cab is the way to go. Extended or crew cabs are too long and tend to have frame issues. Also don't get cheap when choosing a pump. You need enough pressure to do the job. There is even a truck in the county that has a small high pressure pump that works quite well. Brush trucks are a must have when the going gets tough because you can get them places that an engine can only dream about.
It should depend on what kind of call that comes in. If you have a wildland fire and there is structures in danger yes by all means have your engine there also protecting that structure. Especially if the structure is a home or a business. All Rural Fire Depts needs both brush trucks and Engines, main thing about this is to make sure your crew has the training EVDT. I come from a rural fire dept and we have 2 brush trucks, 1 tanker and a engine so that way we are prepared for anything that comes are way.
Both. We have a brush truck with a 200 gallon skid unit. If we have the personnel we try to also run our tanker and/or engine for water supply /exposure protection. Also being most brush units are pump & roll you can move faster, especially if you have to get out fast. We are lucky though that if things get bad we have a Forrestry Service Dozier that is not far away and if it is tied up we border three counties who also have doziers.
Rural companies should have a brush truck for numerous reasons and if they don't they should at least have a mutual aid agreement if one is needed
Here in the northeast in the winter months our brush truck becomes just as useful as it is during brush fire season. We use it during adverse weather and road condition to get around where and when you can't with an engine.
Here is a picture of a go any where brush truck
i tell ya a brush truck is very nice.it can be used from woods and grass fires to being set up with jaws for a mini rescue truck.its kinda an all purpose truck for the not so demanding jobs out there.we have one in all our districts (9 of them) and there great for investigations , fluid spills from accidents, power line down, etc... it sure is a lot better then tieing up a class a pumper for hours waiting on tow trucks or power co.
Permalink Reply by Jeff on December 23, 2008 at 6:09pm
Coming from a rural department I think that the brushtruck is worth every penny. We are surrounded by corn and bean fields with spots of timber and our brush truck is awesome at getting to all of them. With today engines getting bigger and heavier the last thing you want to do is take a $300,000 engine into the field. Our brush truck sits on a F550 chasis and holds 250 gal of water. with a booster reel, two midzone nozzels, a pair of front spray nozzels in the bumper and a 2 1/2 connection on the back with a 2 1/2 inlet. The truck is much quicker then the engines and even though it doesnt hold much water we can fill it in less then a minute with the engines on scene.
We find that is correct. That is better to have both. When it get to a point where your class A is no longer useful for a woods fire, then it is apparant that you should have a smaller, more agile, apparatus that could easily access this type of terrain. We have also found them extremely useful as a quick response type vehicle for other calls. Our department is made up of nine districts and not every district has a rescue truck, so these departments find it easier to get to a accident scene quicker utilizing these brusk trucks as well. The beauty of the type of brush trucks that we have is that they can carry four people and medical equipment with no problems. We found out after responding year round to multiple field, woods, and brush fires that it was long over due for a brush truck, fortunately the county felt the same way. Then Waycross, Georgia caught fire, which solidified the need for brush units in every district. The county has been proactive for once, when it comes to this.