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BOX assignments
What are your first alarm BOX assignments. And do you have all units to respond emergency, or just the first due until it is confirmed a working fire?
Where I am, you get: (this is a non specialty box i.e., hazmat or rural water supply)
5 Engines
2 Trucks
1 Rescue Squad
2 EMS units
3-4 Chiefs
plus if it is a working fire, you get a RID
Where I am, you get: (this is a non specialty box i.e., hazmat or rural water supply)
5 Engines
2 Trucks
1 Rescue Squad
2 EMS units
3-4 Chiefs
plus if it is a working fire, you get a RID
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Permalink Reply by Brian Dumser on
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Our first alarm "box", (now called a General Alarm) is a full dept response.
3 Engines
1 75' Quint
1 100' Ladder Tower
3 Ambulances
1 3000 gal. Water Tanker/Pumper
1 Heavy Rescue
1 Battalion Chief
Assorted other Chief's (as needed)
(RIC as assigned by command)
I thought a RID was that shampoo you get when your kids get lice! LOL Did you mean a RIT? or RIC as we're calling it now.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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First off many here do not use the terminology "Box Alarm" Assignment, so you are going to get some very wild and varied responses.
I remember many moons ago, some really ugly FFN debates over "working fire" so I am not going there...
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Permalink Reply by Scott on
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Okay well being we dont really have "box alarms" persay for a confirmed structure fire we normally have 3-engines 2-equipment/rescue trucks 1-mini pumper 2-tankers (1 2000 gal, 1 3000 gal) and 2 head chiefs one from each station, then again this is our 2 company district in the country so its alot different
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Permalink Reply by Tony P on
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I've managed to translate your question - with the help of FETC and Scott - so I'll add an answer. (Scott? 'per se' )
Structure fire calls have an automatic multiple Station response - the primary Brigade usually respond all vehicles that they can crew, the support Brigade(s) normally respond one pumper.
Wildfire calls are the same, automatic multiple Station respnse. The primary Brigade responding all vehicles it can crew, rolling its Tanker first (a Tanker here is a firefighting vehicle, not a bulk water transport) and the support Brigade would roll its Tanker. In the summer fire danger period, all wildfire calls are automatic three Station response (in my Region at least).
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Permalink Reply by Jay Nicholson on
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Residential gets you 3-1-1. Commercial, which includes apts, etc, 4-2-2.
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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on
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We have Box Alarms, though the original street pull boxes were removed years ago. A box alarm in modern age is a structural response, though we are still given the cross streets of the original street pull box in addition to the actual house address.
Normally
3 engines (2 men each)
2 trucks (2 men each)
1 Rescue (1 FF & 1 Supression LT.)
1 RIT Engine (2 Men)
2 chiefs
1 MICU (2 medics)
All units roll in hot, unless a chief reduces the speed.
FYI: When we are dispatched to a single engine still alarm and there is a job or something working. The engine will ask to fill the box.
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Permalink Reply by Teddy on
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RID (where I am) is a Rapid Intervention Dispatch, which contains the RIT/RIC
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FYI: When we are dispatched to a single engine still alarm and there is a job or something working. The engine will ask to fill the box.
I love the old station talk. Pull the hook. Drop a second. The barns empty
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Permalink Reply by C.Reed 9-26 on
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Our box alarm system is similar to what most of you guys are talking about.
Our coverage area (Jefferson county PA, Station 9) has four general "boxes" : 9A, B, C, and D.
These are geographic regions of our area. North, South, East and West to simplify.
The box type dispatched dictates not only our response but our mutual aid as well. Not everyone does
extrication, some companies have more advanced HazMat equipment than others. You get the idea.
Typically dispatched as: Dispatcher:
"Jefferson County Box 9-A. Working structure fire, 123 Orchard Road. FIre Stations 9, 5, 12, Clarion 560 Ambulace Station 50 due."
When a station acknowledges they are told what apparatus are due and respond Code 3.
ei. Station 12: "County Station 12 acknowledges the call"
Disp: "Copy Station 12 Ack. Engine 12-1 and Tanker 12 due."
This is because of alot of different mutual aide agreements. Hard to keep track of each individual box response.
The "home" station typically tries to respond every necessary apparatus with the mutual aide following with
requested apparatus. If unable to man the requested trucks; command can special request apparatus from another station.
And, if the mutual aide companies have the manpower to bring additional resources then WooHoo !! more help.
Each box type (Fire, Rescue, General Alarm) is set up for a specfic response based on the area and closest resources needed.
MVA with entrapment: Rescue or Squad on the box (Home Company plus mutual aide if Home doesn't due extracation)
High-rise structure: get a Tower or Ladder
Tri-methyl-killyatwice spill: County HazMat Team
etc. etc. etc.
The first unit on scene, officer or apparatus, does a quick size up and reports to dispatch if additional units are needed (2nd alarm or special call) or units should respond non-emergency or cancel.
It's a little complicated but it works.
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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For what you described in our system it’s an automatic still and brings;
3 engines
1 heavy rescue
1 medium rescue
2 ambulances
This would be for a report of a structure fire, after that you go to the “box” level.
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Just when I thought I knew it all, I go and learn something new! Thanks.
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Yeah, that did turn ugly!
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