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Does your department use "RIT" or "RIC"
Does your department use "RIT" or "RIC", and if so do you supply them their own pumper and tools? It states that a RIC team is to have their own pumper and have be on a different water supply then the operation pumpers. There's no way we could do this on our departemnt but we could do it as a mutial aid. How does your department do it, or do you not use a RIC team?
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Permalink Reply by T.J. on
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I think we should go to a county wide RIT team too. Has does that work for you guys, do you like it or would you change anything about it?
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Permalink Reply by Chris on
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We automatically send 3 engines, 2 trucks, 1 heavy rescue, 1 batt. chief to any working structure fire. The RIT will usually come from the heavy rescue with 4 personel the RIT line is a second line pre con on the truck for most house fires since we normally only pull 1 line on small houses if both lines are pulled then the third engine is in a ready position but no line is pulled.
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Permalink Reply by Ron Ayotte on
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A friend's FD has the Firefighter Assistance and Rescue Team. The term was phrased by one of their Assistant Chiefs... of course, he thought the name was great, but forgot about the abbreviation for the team...
The first working fire after the training was completed, the IC called my friends Truck company to the scene to be the FART team!
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Permalink Reply by Jenny Holderby on
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hehehe as long as they are FAST I guess it's ok.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Canady on
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We have a RIT crew of 3-4 personnel. Our normal response to a structure fire is 2 engines, and 1 quint. If it is a working fire, another quint is to respond as RIT Crew.
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Permalink Reply by Lee on
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My department uses a RIT team, we dotn have our own pumper but we select our own tools that nobody else on teh scene can use. But like you said we could set up a RIT team for mutual aid and use just our pumper and tools
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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Where does it state that RIT has to be on a seperate water supply? The only place I've seen that is in the NFPA 1403 standard. That standard specifically refers to live burn training, not real incidents.
If you're fighting a fire in a non-hydranted area, it may be impossible to find a second water supply source.
That tanker shuttle with one engine drafting at the dump site is likely all you're going to get.
RIT isn't about water - it's about locating, extricating, and rescuing firefighters who are lost, disoriented, trapped, or incapacitated. RIT should tell you "TOOLS", not "WATER". Having a backup hoseline ready has been a standard fire service practice for decades - long before RIT was invented.
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Ben is correct, where and what standard says seperate water source? I personally do not establish a water supply or even assign an engine company when establishing a firefighter stand by team. The aspect of RIT, RIC or FAST entering a structure and fighting fire to rescue a downed firefighter is insane, definately not rapid, therefore that would be just adding another supression company to the fireground. The standby team needs to be quick, light, and able to gain entry and bring the downed firefighter what he needs. Explain to me when we would need RIT to stretch a line to rescue a downed firefighter? Just becasue a manufacturer made a nozzle cover that says RIT, doesn't mean you need to have your own line, that is the business side of advertising. Our RIT enters using a lifeline rope to maintain building orientation. If your RIT enters with a line to maintain orientation, then that is a training issue. Good command and control, would re-position an engine company or use the backup team to assist with fire suppression efforts in the area while the standby team provides precious lifesaving air, disentanglement and/or extrication.
Back to terminology: RIT, RIC, RAT, FAST, On-Deck
All different titles for the same cause, a team of trained firefighters on stand by to assist when a firefighter or firefighters are in trouble. We personally where we work, use the terminology RIT.
Note: That if you are in the early stages of your SOG's and development of a safety policy. RIC is the nationally recognized ackroynm that is used, therefore RIC is what I use when teaching a class.
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Wow, I find it hard to believe in this era of committment to firefighter safety, that departments choose to not establish a firefighter stand-by team, especially after some major firefighter LODD's in your own state...
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Permalink Reply by Robert Owens on
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We utilize RIT at every incident that involves an IDLH. We do not give them there own pumper with its own water supply they do how ever have a dedicated line that is only used for RIT.
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Permalink Reply by Chief 29 on
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We use Rit. They are only dispatched on a confirmed structure fire. the RIT team is mutual aid and they supply their own equipment including apparatus. We have two mutual aid companies in our area that we can utilize and we usually have the closest one respond depending on the location of the call.
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