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Should fire apparatus be provided with fixed fire suppression system(s)?
Heavy Duty Construction Equipment commonly makes use of fixed fire protection systems.
Fire apparatus typically does not come equipped with fixed fire protection systems... Why not?
April 2011 - City of Orlando FD Fire Engine Consumed by Fire
It"s no mystery that industrial use machinery and vehicles are provided with fixed fire protection systems. Without muddying the water with the various systems available, why are these fixed fire protection systems not provided on our apparatus ? The loss of a fire apparatus due to mechanical, electrical or fuel system has occurred in the past, and have the potential to significantly impact the communities they serve. So why don't we protect our apparatus like industry protects their resources? Or maybe, some of you do?
CBz
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Permalink Reply by Barbu-Maximilian Laurentiu on
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I would propose another question: what is the degree of protection (fire, earthquake, etc.) of fire stations in your area? There is an infrastructure protection plan for such situations and that would be his principles? It is organized this activity to you?
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Permalink Reply by Andy Turnham on
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Not for the crew cab I hope!
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Permalink Reply by Michael A on
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Our wild land truck is equipped with a on board suppression system, its called holes in the water tank..lol That thing leaks like a sieve. What can you say though its a early 70s 6x6
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Permalink Reply by Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd on
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very funny!
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Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on
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In order to be a "fixed" fire protection system, the leaks would necessarily have to be repaired.
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The brush truck does have spray nozzles along the bumper to protect the truck from fire spreading to it. But like I said it does leak pretty bad as well. But it saves us from taking our engine out in fields.
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I am interested in land protection equipment heavy fighting, low capacity (vegetation fires in the hills and mountains) you have one? What chassis? Some pictures, specific data?
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Permalink Reply by FFN WebTeam on
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News of an Orlando engine catching fire while on the road...
Orlando, Florida fire engine burns on highway
Courtesy Fire Truck Blog
FFN
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Permalink Reply by 55 TRUCK on
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Why would we want one!? If your piece catches fire you get a new one! Maybe not right away,
but you do go to the top of the list. Meanwhile. You get a reserve piece to clunk around in. lol!
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and who would have thought that only five days after I posted this discussion, an engine would be consumed by fire in the City of Orlando, Florida... I still think it's a good idea, and in some cases could result in decreased insurance premiums.
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Two days ago Ben, and just a few days after I posted this forum thread, an engine from Orlando City FD became toast on an interstate highway...
I have to disagree with what is carried on an engine should be enough. The photo above illustrates that pretty clearly. It was not until another engine arrived that the fire was extinguished...
Without the responding 2nd engine, everything in this Type 1 fire engine would have been lost. The time between the loss of the apparatus and the replacement is not worth having a mind set that these engines are typically old and outdated. I personally experienced our 100-foot ladder truck catching on fire from a hydraulic leak that dripped onto the exhaust and caught fire. Accidents do happen...
Preventing the fire from gaining in intensity, hopefully putting it out before any damage can occur... I believe it's called Fire Prevention... and that's not something that we should tell others to do but not follow ourselves... The amount of monies available to replace equipment and vehicles is just to precious these days.
CBz
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Thank you. You validate the point of this post. We should all actually practice "Fire Prevention"... and this includes protecting one of our more important resources, apparatus and equipment.
CBz
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