What is your thought we are adding another engine. The one we are replacing is top mount. But we want to keep the engines as close to the same. I like the top mount I feel shielded from traffic and power lines. We just bought a new engine and I want to keep them close to the same. So that the way I voted, I hope I am right on this one.

The bottom photo is are 2000 Pierce that we are replacing.

The top Photo is the McGinley we are thinking of copying with just a few changes. Adding CAFS like the Pierce and just a 1000 gallon tank instead of 2000 gallon like on the McGinley we now have.

 

Sorry I messed up the photo on the McGinley had trouble with that light and sent it to the salesman and it saved it that way.

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The county has rules on what apparatus will have and their design. They try to stay close to the NFPA standards. The county also has the right to say if a unit can operate in the county and what it will take to meet the standards to be used.
We have a combination system and the career side has control under county charter.



Sounds like a little too much of big brother.

Although, are you a single county dept or are there individual depts and the county is imposing their rules?

I can understand the county having a say if it is one dept or if it is the source of funding, but not so much if there are individual depts with seperate jurisdictions.
The way it is here, we have volunteer depts that were formed before charter came in 1970. We have independed volunteer companies and then county career service which has a appointed chief who is over all.
Most stations are owned by the volunteer depts and most of the apparatus. The county owns some stations and have been adding stations in areas they feel need the protection.
They want a three minute response in the coverage of a area. But they lack the apparatus and are now at the point to using reserve apparatus to fill the stations or removing their apparatus from volunteer stations and moving it somewhere else. Then the volunteers go out and buy their own unit to replace what was taken. Ambulances the county has 70 of them for basic or paramedic use but only one or two units pre station depending on the use. The rest sit until a unit goes in for maintenance and rotates to the next unit comes in for maintenance. They need to order new ambulances because the fleet is wearing out and some have been wreaked. Some volunteer stations do have their own ambulances but that is just a few of them.
Sounds like you're in Maryland....
In my state driver/pumper/operator class they told us "Not to watch the scene are focus should be on the panel". They wanted us to stay away from topmounts for this reason. But I have never been able to stay at the panel and not do something like hook-up lines. We just don't have that kind of manpower.
Pretty Much.
I disagree.

I was on many scenes like this and was up and down all the time, and I love the top mount for all the reasons already given. Safety, visibility, not tripping over hose lines, not having crosslays in your face, being able to go up or down either side depending on what was going on. Never bothered me having to go up and down numerous times at a fire.

The top mount panel is a much simpler setup to operate as well. Especially if you don't see much fire.
How many miles on the Pierce? have you looked at a 4 man engine?
Not many under 10,000 I think. If there is more it's not much more. We only avg 125 runs a year. Most are medical so the engine stays home.
No we really haven't we have just don't have the manpower. 10 What I would call active firefighters to 5 trucks. 5 Firefighters live close enough to respond the trucks the others use there POVs. The roster says 20 but most of them never do more than 5 runs a year.
We try to gain firefighters but it seems when we gain we lose about the same amount.

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