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Wants and Wastes on a new Truck??
We got one ordered, have a pre-construction meeting in a few days. For us this is a multiuse rig with the only difference from our standard configuration is 4 wheel drive, smaller pump and a little less water, 650 instead of 1000. It’s an International 2 door 4X4, 1000gpm pump and roll, 20gal foam, nothing fancy. For the lack of a better term this is our brush/rescue truck. This rig will cover everything but structure fires, there it will serve as water supply loaded with LDH.
My questions to you will be;
What is the best gadget you can’t do without?
What was the biggest waste of money?
Before you question the 2 door, we roll a heavy rescue on all calls.
My questions to you will be;
What is the best gadget you can’t do without?
What was the biggest waste of money?
Before you question the 2 door, we roll a heavy rescue on all calls.
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Permalink Reply by Trainer on
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Ted, we’ve ordered 450’ 5" LDH that gives us about 1200 total, hose bed is not an issue, it’s huge due to the smaller tank. It will be feeding a 1500gpm pump, ya I know not ideal but we had to stay with the 1000 in order to have pump-n-roll capabilities. No on the Jake-brake, yes on the electronic exhaust brake. It also has a Detroit locker for true 4 wheel drive. Since I’m the resident fabricator/welder I’m currently building the roller that will fit in the Reece hitch. I like the hose ramp idea, for LDH they will take a lot of room.
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Permalink Reply by T.J. on
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I like the "little" mini pumpers for rescue calls, but we had another department near use take theirs to fire alarms and one day it got'em, they pulled up on scene with flames showing, so now when we bring up that we want a mini pumper, we always get turned down by our Chief's because of what they did.
Anyways, make sure you get a big generator on it.
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TJ, don’t take this the wrong way, but where the heck would you put all of the equipment required for an MVA, the cribbing alone would fill half of it. We have several depts. around us that do roll the “mini pumper”, but most don’t handle the volume of MVA’s that we do. When you get info from dispatch for an accident, 98% of the time it’s not right, we don’t want to take the chance. I’ve been on more than 1 “car” fire that took more then 1000gal of water, and none of them were cars. Can you tell I’m not an advocate of this?...LOL. Anyways about the generator, we just got a small one, the Big Boy is on the rescue.
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Our city department has 2 of them and they work great for them, we figured if we could get one for our selves, the City can be to our aid in minutes if need be. If there's a fire invoved then thats different respond with an engine. Not sure about 1000 gal of water thing but ok.
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Permalink Reply by Jay Nicholson on
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If you are using this as a brush/rescue truck, why the LDH?
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Permalink Reply by Scott on
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Well it kind of sounds like the newest truck we just bought last year a pierce contender its a mini-pumper/rescaue/quick attack truck well it plays all three roles its nomally the first truck out it packs around 20 gal of foam 650 gal tank cribbing our jaws, two scott packs in a roll up compartment and a nice amount of regular interior tools one side of the trucks basically dedicated to cribbing but its a handy little 4x4 truck and normally the tankers right behind it to haul in the water.
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Permalink Reply by robert roth on
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Nice rig, is enough for you all in rural areas. Does not look like it carries much. We have a major hwy so we have a heavy resue. We are looking at getting rid of some older and less useful trucks. We are thinking about a pumper/ Tanker with 3000 gal and getting rid of two pumpers that are at the end of there life. We have a ladder now and need the tanker as we found out a structure last month. (see pic on my page) Good luck and it seems that you are heading in the right direction.
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Well aside from this one we run a 3000 gal tanker a brush truck equipment van and a 1000 gal engine just this is normally first out
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Permalink Reply by LEO AFD389NY on
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There is one thing that you have to remember just because that is a 4 wheel drive doesn't mean that it can go off the road . I have seen some of the departments aroun me that have trucks like that and they think that they can be used off raod and then they bury the truck up to its akles. You have to remember that there is a lot of weight on that truck. So good luck wiyh your new truck.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Boeseneilers on
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If your doing any kind of fire alarms I would say a thermal imager is worth its weight in gold. I like MSA's handheld imager. Its light weight and works well in all weather.
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Permalink Reply by BIVFD 216 on
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Our department debated getting a urban interface engine probably similar to you guys are going to speck out. The only problem I have with these trucks is that after you put the 4x4 suspension under them the over all height is going to be about 10'. In our first due you can't even get one of these trucks down the driveway due to overhead limbs etc.... Also you need to consider the weight of the truck if it is going to serve as a wildland and going to see a lot of offroad time. I would guess on a price tag of around $320,000 depending on your engine requirements.
In the end our department has elected to keep the two apparatus separated. We have ordered a new brush rig and are trying to find the funds for a new engine that we have already specked out. For us there is no one truck that can do it all due to our geography.
I guess it really depends on the geography of the area that you serve more than anything.
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I can’t tell you the exact height yet, but its lower then our Freightliner and will gross out loaded at 29,000. It has the wide tire option, but a little disappointed with the 330hp, again no choice due to the Allison transmission had to be smaller for the pump-n-roll option, so the MFG didn’t want to blow it apart. Yes it can be stuck, so can a pickup, most times due to a loose nut behind the wheel.
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