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100ft length attack hose vs 50ft lengths??
Starting a discussion for pros and cons of 100 and 50 foot attack hose. Mainly, are there any benefits of 100 foot lengths? My department bought 100 foot lengths and everyone hates it... Dangerous and super heavy. Just trying to get others opinions and see if there is any benefit at all to having 100ft. Thanks in advance.
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Permalink Reply by Don Catenacci on
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Dangerous and super heavy? Are you kidding? A 100 foot section of hose weights less than 2 - 50s because of 1 less set of couplings.
The benefits are it is cheaper than 2 - 50 foot lengths and there is one less set of couplings to snag on objects interior.
My FD uses 100 foot lengths of 2 inch in our 200 and 300 foot pre-connects and there have been no complaints at all about it.How about this guess on my part. The Chief made this decision and you guys don't like that he didn't ask you first.
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Permalink Reply by Andrew on
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Just heavier to roll, we have it in 2 1/2 and it just screams back injury. Dangerous because if you get lost and use the hose to orient...it will take you a lot longer to figure out you're going the wrong way by feel of the coupling.
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Don Catenacci said:
Andrew, just screams back injury? Do you use 4 or 5 inch hose because even a 50 foot length of that will weigh more than 100 feet of 2 1/2. The weight of 2 1/2 inch hose varies from around .40 to .55 per foot. Meaning a 100 foot length weighs between 40 and 55 pounds, now add probably 5 pounds for the couplings.
In 40 years as a firefighter I can tell you I have never had to re-orient myself on a hose line. I suppose it could happen tomorrow. I am curious though, how many times have you had to do it in your career?
What's the real reason you don't like it?
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Permalink Reply by captnjak on
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Don Catenacci said:
Don Catenacci said:
Andrew, just screams back injury? Do you use 4 or 5 inch hose because even a 50 foot length of that will weigh more than 100 feet of 2 1/2. The weight of 2 1/2 inch hose varies from around .40 to .55 per foot. Meaning a 100 foot length weighs between 40 and 55 pounds, now add probably 5 pounds for the couplings.
In 40 years as a firefighter I can tell you I have never had to re-orient myself on a hose line. I suppose it could happen tomorrow. I am curious though, how many times have you had to do it in your career?
What's the real reason you don't like it?Knowing how to use couplings as a direction indicator is a definite tool in the toolbox. But I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually doing it. We have search ropes, TIC, other team members, etc. to help get us out.I probably would not base a purchasing decision on it.
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So Andrew, have you left this topic? I was hoping for a lively discussion.
Maybe you didn't get the support you were hoping for so you left.
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Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.
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Andrew said:Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.____________________________________________________________________________Do you do a lot of standpipe work? I could see those 100 footers getting real heavy real fast.
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I'm out. I think you really are looking for people to agree with you and not actually discuss this. Good luck.
Andrew said:
Haven't left, just waiting for replies from people with more hands on experience with 100 foot lengths. The heaviness I was speaking of is that 100 feet of hose rolled up is heavier than 50 feet. And my department is actually cutting them down now because we have already had a back injury from carrying roll a 100 ft of 2.5.
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As I said from the beginning, I'm looking for a discussion. Pros and cons. I appreciate Don chiming in and I respect him bowing out. 100' lengths of 1.75",2.5 and 3" have their plus and minus. I feel rolling these lengths and moving them poses back issues and as attack line have their issues as well. My department has decided to change to 50' lengths and now I have no further discussion. Thanks to all that contributed. I did not look to be sided with just an outsiders look for the greater of the good. Everyone out there be safe. God bless.
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