designing tshirt and patch any help ?

im in the process of designing a tshirt and a patch for my explorer post any ideas??? suggestions ?
this is the two slogans i want to use
*training hard , living long
*brotherhood above all

feel free to help out ill apreciate your 2 cents

add pics if u can

thanks

luis

the department is Broward sheriff office fire rescue or BSO fire rescue
mostly metropolitan and suburbs but also cover the florida everglades
we focus on pretty much everything : structures fires , brush/wild fires , ARFF , sea port firefighting , TRT , HAZMAT , animal rescue , extrications , air rescue/flight medics , SWAT medics , etc
we are sponsored by our department

is this better?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Schlags (Captain Busy) Retd on March 25, 2009 at 1:23am

you just can't throw out such a vanilla request, aside from the fact that you need to pay attention to the category (this does not belong under General Firefighting and Rescue Discussions). with that said, you need to provide details such as where you work, the geographical area, group focus (e.g. structural ,ARFF, wildland...) who are you sponsored by? boy scouts? the department? just not enough info made available to offer you any help buddy... bz