I know I am a sub-rookie and all, but I have a major problem with firefighters carrying all kinds of garbage on their helmet bands. I recently saw a new minted LT who had every inch of his helmet band covered with crap, including a pair of trauma sheers with plastic handles. The last time I looked at my trauma sheers, the had a handle that could only withstand autoclave temps up to 280 degrees. It seems to be a sign of expertise to carry all that s*** on your helmet. Thoughts?

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nails, i put them on my helmet but the thing with those buggers is when you get out of a fire and you go get some water youtake it off then.... there hot like a mother frigerr!!! lol.
Department policy in our station only permit flashlights and door stops on the helmet. No stickers or any other item are permitted without department review.
ok i may be speaking out of line or restating some thing said i couldnt bring myself to read 10 plus pages of this i did read a pockets argument my rebutal is ever been in a structure fire? with gloves on and in a hurry i cant find squat in my pockets when its needed. i read an aluminum spanner argument my rebutal is its 1220 degrees farenheit is the melting point of aluminum i believe your 660 was a celsius reading and if youre at 1220 degrees i believe your spanner melting is the last of your worries i think you need to be haulin @$$ out of that bad boy

i will state that at some point enough is enough you do have to think safety for your self. but some items are ok when you find that your 54 oz new yorker now weighs 80 or 90 ounces maybe the less used items needed to be removed to a less conspicuous location trauma shears are a bit much ive seen happy meal toys WAY TOO MUCH ill touch on what i carry in my helmet bad i have a garrity light door/sprinkler wedges and on the band its self i have a st florian medal pin just a lucky charm
With our Dept we pretty much are not allowed to have anything on them, I keep waiting for them to complain about my LED light and holder.
the last department i was on, we weren't even allowed to have helmet lights.
Let me put it this way....Personally, I don't pack a bunch of junk on my helmet....BUT...it isn't your helmet why do you care what someone puts on theirs...don't sweat the small stuff...there are much bigger issues in the Fire Service than this.....How about addressing us killing ourselves on calls....LODD's have decrease in over 10 years.....No there is something to gripe about......Paul
1 wedge and a flaslight is all i got on mine but what you put on yours might be diffrent i understand the melt point but if he doing more ems then firefighting
having med sheers on your lid is DUMB and a sign of so. Things like wedges go on a lid all the other stuff is for show.
If you can show me a story - with names and places and dates, not "a buddy of mine told me" - of someone who got injured because of door chocks or lights on their helmet, then I'l be more receptive. The plastic lights many of us carry melt at a low temperature. The wooden chocks? The rubber to hold them? How about the cheap, thin brass eagles? How about the elastic strap on your NFPA certified ESS goggles? How about the 3m reflective material - is that "fire rated" to any significant temperature?

Is some - or much - of it foolish? Yes. Silly looking? Maybe. Dangerous?

"Apparently, he did not notice that his nice knew Globe bunkers have pockets." Maybe you could be a bit less sarcastic, and more constructive. If you are, as you describe yourself: "I know I am a sub-rookie and all...," maybe you could talk to these trophy wearers, learn from them and let them learn from you, instead of merely ridiculing them.

You seem to have many years to go on the job. Don't get off on the wrong foot.
I carry 6 Door chalks 6 nails 2 Flashlights on my lid back home and people complained so i took them off. untill we caught a fire and they asked me for one of my chalks and and i told them i didnt have them now they there isnt an issue of what i have. Now i do agree that trauma shears isnt a good idea but if they are there he must have a reason. Just because its not yours doesnt mean that you wont need something someone else has on their lid
The NFPA sets standards for protective clothing. Individual departments have standards that mostly mirror NFPA for OUR protection. In my many years of firefighting I have never witnessed anyone getting hung up by objects in their helmet band. I didn't even want the extra ounces of weight on my head. The only thing I carried was door wedges. The thing I used the most. When I came on the job the clips on our turn out coats were exposed, now there was something that got hung up. NFPA changed that and now the coats have zippers and velcro flaps. Many things have changed to protect us as we protect others. If anyone gets injured because of items melting off their helmet, just wait to see what the insurance company says. How fast will things disappear from helmets then.
Be safe all
wow ive been doing this for over 15 years and ive never been hung up from the stuff on my helmet i got a flashlight and 2 chucks what we carry there is up to us maybe we think we can get to it easyer with our gloves on when its there its considered personel gear sp what we carry is up to us hey whats a sub- rookie here we have rookies or probies never heard of a sub-rookie

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