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Car Roll Over- What Would You Do?
Here's a fairly common call for most of us, but there's a multitude of ways to extricate, so let's hear it!
What hazards are present?
What's your department's response?
How do you extricate? LEt's assume that the driver is pinned by the steering wheel, from the roll over and impact....
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Permalink Reply by Stacy Banderinko on
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now this i've done before. we did everything you guys did, i believe. this was a scenario during my BVR class. it took both teams of six, one for each car dedicated to each "patient". my team had the flipped car. i think i see that the two cars have been secured together by ratchet straps, right? it's a little hard to see. we did that as well...makes the one on top more stable. very nice. hope i never see this one on the streets, cause then it's a really bad day made worse. lol also, what are those called that you stabilized the red car with? we call them JYDs, but maybe they aren't what i think, or you call them something different?
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Permalink Reply by Ric Smith on
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When we did this it took about 9-10 min from start to finish (that's everything but pt. removal).
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Permalink Reply by Michael Bates on
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Stacey those look to be ,Rescue 42's strut system. I've used them once in training, My dept uses Rescue Jacks tensioned buttress system both of these are similar in their deployment yet have many differences including construction matereial, Rescue 42 is a composite, Rescue Jack is steel, the pins on rescue 42 seem easier to switch, but I like the hand jack and lifting ability of Rescue Jack.I've never used JYD's, how do you like them? and how large do they expand?Years ago we were using 4x4 cribbing with a chain run through a hole in the end attached to a come-a-long.
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JYD's are the best thing we have on our Rescue right now. they are also a steel composite, and the pin system is the same: easily switchable. when we pull up to any type of inverted car, those are the first things we pull along with cribbing. there are several different sizes, depending on where you want to put them on the car. there are two different lengths. the Nightmare Struts go from a retracted length of 48" to a maximum extension of 72", and the G-Force Struts go from a retracted length of 24" to a maximum extension of 36". here's some pics of how they might be used. we don't have Rescue 42's and i've never seen them, that's why i asked. we do have the 4x4 system as a back-up. we also have air shores, but we don't use them to their full capabilities because it takes too much time on scene. we use them as back-up as well. -
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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If you look at the photo above that Ric posted up, unless your vehicle construciton is different t0 ours, I'd perhaps be cautious of the placing of this device.
It appears to be bracing against "soft" panels or bumpers which have the potential to flex or move without warning- is this considered safe or normal practice? -
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Yes, if you look very closely you'll see that there are in fact access holes cut into the panel on both sides to produce purchase points. However, something to remember is that there is nearly no weight applied to these struts (all the weight is forward). The struts are only to stablize the rear of the vehicle. Good observation & comment....Ric
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Cool! Good thinking, however still food for thought for others that may be using these devices... :)
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Permalink Reply by hafley on
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do you guys have any trauma guidelines for scene flights examle mechonism of injury or are the scene flights just bassed on Pt status of course alot of my scene flights have been based on Pt status be here in TN we have trauma destanation guidelines to follow and you can fly on MOI alone or extraction time greater than 30 min and so on and so forth just curious.
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Here it can be a clinical decission (ie: injuries, etc) or a distance vs time issue (ie: if it will take a number of hours to transport by road, they may be flown, weather and other factors permitting)
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Permalink Reply by Randy Schmitz on
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Ric,
You can take advantage of purchase points already built into the vehicle, Like the gas cap port which is normally strong enough to support a universal strut head, I thought I showed you that already...lol!
See you in June..... -
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lol......yes you did, thanks for reminding me :-) How ya been? We're getting geared up for the pile-up the off to NY for nationals...... TCSS, Ric
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Been real busy, organising the Calgary Challenge, which is a week before the pile up.
I have a few new tricks I want to show you guys, or you can read it in Fire Engineering Mag which I think it will becoming out shortly.
I'll keep you updated....
By the way say hello to Jeff C for me, he is doing an awsome job with the website and instucting with the PTX.
All you guys have come a long way in a short time!
Take care. -
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