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Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on January 5, 2009 at 3:27pm

He's going to get the all photograph "cliffnote" edition. :)

Permalink Reply by Art "ChiefReason" Goodrich on January 5, 2009 at 3:38pm

Any firehouse that is public and supported by taxes and porno?
That's a problem.
Whether it's on the wall, in the locker, on the computer, on the TV would violate several laws designed to protect the public from unwanted sexually explicit material coming into their view.
Maybe I am old school, but I didn't know that firehouses and porn were so closely identified with each other.
Either we're missing out or it's not even a blip on the radar screen.
I mean; I know of several firehouses that filter firefighter websites.
Wouldn't your code of conduct forbid you from bringing that type of material to "work"?
I know that I would be immediately fired if I brought porn to my work place or visited a porno website while at work or forwarded an inappropriate email or made a sexually explicit comment to another co-worker.
Am I missing something?
TCSS.
Art

Permalink Reply by Allen Wahlstrom on January 5, 2009 at 5:12pm

Im about to call Michael Buffer to get this going right...

Llllleeeetttts get ready to Rrrruuuuummmmbbllee!!!!

you two, back to your rooms until you can play nice.

Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on January 5, 2009 at 9:10pm

looking at porn is like being invited to a barbecue, and then being told you can only watch other people eat

Great analogy. Porn has it's place (not in my house) and it's definately NOT in a public building of ANY kind

Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on January 5, 2009 at 9:16pm

Although I don't view porn I can't tell anyone that it isn't their right to view it in the privacy of their own homes. Thats plain dumb.

Permalink Reply by Matt on January 5, 2009 at 9:52pm

Our station has no porn posted either, a few guys may have a picture in their lockers, but its in privacy of their locker. Nothing is posted but pictures of calls that we ahve handled,.

Permalink Reply by lutan1 on January 5, 2009 at 10:09pm

Chris wrote, "What do you mean by porn? "
This is a very valid question.

Is there a legal definition that the courts use when considering harassment in the workpalce, etc?

Based on the responses I've had from a few members here about pictures I've posted, they obviosuly have a different view of what is offensive, as opposed to what I find offensive. There lies the issue- and the definition will (hopefully) clarify whether what's acceptable in the firehouse.

Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on January 5, 2009 at 10:17pm

Definition of "Straw Man"

"A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man," one describes a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view, yet is easier to refute. Then, one attributes that position to the opponent. For example, someone might deliberately overstate the opponent's position. While a straw man argument may work as a rhetorical technique—and succeed in persuading people—it carries little or no real evidential weight, since the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on January 5, 2009 at 11:06pm

Yeah, it's crazy how some people think they should control others...

The Navy MUST be crazy for putting one Captain in control of all of the other sailors on a ship. Obviously, all of the sailors should do and say whatever they want at all times, regardless of the situation.

Likewise, fire departments must be crazy for putting the Chief in control of the other firefighters, right? What a crazy idea.

And...in America, where the taxpayers fund the fire department. Who do they think they are to...well, invoke their freedom of speech to tell us that some things are not appropriate for us to do when they're paying us to protect them? And...in America, to boot.

Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on January 5, 2009 at 11:15pm

Allen didn't make a comment, he asked you a question. Note his subtle use of a question mark for punctuation.

Permalink Reply by Ben Waller on January 5, 2009 at 11:18pm

Actually, Scott, Answers.com is not only a dictionary, it's also an encyclopedia, much more.

Here's the link:

http://www.answers.com/

Permalink Reply by Engineco913 on January 5, 2009 at 11:24pm

Scott,

Please don't see most of these as "attacks." It appears at though your choice of words and taking the topic off course has come around full circle. In the future you should type what you want and then review it before clicking the add reply button.

Is it considered an attack after you used those words and the people you offend offer any rebuttle?

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