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Victoria (Australia) LODD Statistics
Thought this link might be of interest to some
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/about/history/honor_roll.htm
It is a new part of the CFA's website that includes a Role Call of LODD in this State.
As you'll see, the numbers are way (way, way, way!) down when compared to the USA. (As would be expected when you compare numbers of members and fires attended)
There's a few dates that claimed multiple lives, such as Ash Wednesday (1983) and the Linton fires (1998)- in both cases crews in trucks became trapped during a bushfire/wildfire.
Anyway, thoiught it might mnake for some interesting comparisons....
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/about/history/honor_roll.htm
It is a new part of the CFA's website that includes a Role Call of LODD in this State.
As you'll see, the numbers are way (way, way, way!) down when compared to the USA. (As would be expected when you compare numbers of members and fires attended)
There's a few dates that claimed multiple lives, such as Ash Wednesday (1983) and the Linton fires (1998)- in both cases crews in trucks became trapped during a bushfire/wildfire.
Anyway, thoiught it might mnake for some interesting comparisons....
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Permalink Reply by FETC on
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Sorry Lutan but you can't make a comparison to the United States, the numbers are like comparing apples to oranges.
This is straight from your CFA website:
CFA brigades responded to 34,139 incidents including nearly 5,000 vegetation fires, 3,046 fires in buildings, 2,104 vehicle fires and 2,958 road accident rescues.
This is from just from FDNY (as you know) is just ONE city within the United States.
In 2007, the FDNY dealt with the following number of calls:
Structural fires: 28,004
Non-structural fires: 19,388
Non-fire emergencies: 209,943
Medical emergencies: 207,677
They protect 10 million people... just in their city.
Out of your 3046 fires in buildings, which I admit is pretty low, focusing on fire prevention infrastructure, how many civilian deaths were reported?
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Permalink Reply by Allen Wahlstrom on
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What was FDNY's LODD numbers for 2008?
And comparing FDNY to rural firefighting is a tough comparison. Try with US wildland runs..then maybe we can get a closer comparison.
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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on
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Guys, re-read my original post.
I clearly state the following: As you'll see, the numbers are way (way, way, way!) down when compared to the USA. (As would be expected when you compare numbers of members and fires attended)
I know they're not an accurate comparison...
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Permalink Reply by Jason Brooks on
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Is Australia similar to a lot of our European Brothers in the aspect that they don't do as much interior firefighting? I have seen discussions on this with European departments, they do a lot of exterior work and a lot of short hose burst water methods. Right, wrong or not, we tend to be more aggressive and go interior in the US. This is a huge difference in techniques and mentalities. I am not implying at all, that they do anything less dangerous compared to what we do here in the states. Just differently.
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Interior does happen, but no where near as often. We also don't do rooftop ventilation.
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Lutan, not looking to start an arguement, but just posting the thread and throwing in the way, way, way down comment is BS.
I did note you didn't answer my question though, with the reduction of interior operations, what was the civilian death rate on the 3046 building fires you had?
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Lutan, not looking to start an arguement, but just posting the thread and throwing in the way, way, way down comment is BS.
FETC, it's not BS when it's read on context of what I wrote- it will be way, way, way down when you compare that we have no where the number of members and fires. That's not BS- if we had the same numbers of departments, members and run calls, I'd expect that the numbers would be higher.
It's the same for deaths in car accidents- of course the USA will have higher than us when you consider the sheer numbers of cars on the roads as compared to us. Again it's not BS.
In terms of civillian deaths- I don't know. As far as I know ,there is no database or stats on those- I'll keep fishing.
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Permalink Reply by turk182 on
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I understand what you were trying to say lutan1 the number of fires and members are smaller compared to the numbers we have in the US.
Any death or injury at all is hard to take I just think people get upset when you compare.
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I understand what you were trying to say lutan1 the number of fires and members are smaller compared to the numbers we have in the US.
Yay! Thankyou- it's not meant as a "look at us, we're so good!", the intention was simply for others to have a look and see the differences, but to be mindful of the way lower call rates and member numbers...
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